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  • tibiker
    • Aug 2010
    • 9

    • Draper, UT

    • 2007 SANTE 2011 SANTE

    NSS for older Nautiques???

    I contacted Nautique to ask about possibly updating the software in my LINC 1 (2011 SANTE 230) to make it compatible with the NSS. The response I received was that the LINC could NOT be updated to control the NSS.
    Does anyone know of anyone who has a non- LINC control unit that I could purchase so that I could add the NSS to my boat?

    I also suggested that maybe Nautique could design a control system that is an add on for the older boats that is NOT controlled through the LINC 2 system. I also suggested that maybe they could offer a LINC upgrade or trade-in program so that those of us with the LINC 1 could purchase that with the NSS. I never received a response from them, so either they are looking at it and haven't gotten back to me, or they don't feel that it warrants a response.
  • scottb7
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2198

    • Carson City, Nevada

    • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

    #2
    Nautique would prefer you buy a newer boat. There is probably a way to get the nss parts from nautique and some of the attached to get it all working.
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    • HS
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 1333

      • Sammamish, WA

      • 2010 SANTE 210 (Sold)

      #3
      Scott, what I was told is that Nautique won't even send the NSS units out to dealers without verification of the Hull Number so that they know which Linc system it has. . .but let me know if you succeed in getting one!!
      2010 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition

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      • scottb7
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2198

        • Carson City, Nevada

        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

        #4
        My post was for OP. I am ok with listing to the side. Love my 1100 sac's in the back, and as pictured I just put a 650 lb under loveseat.

        That is a bummer they won't send the parts. Can't blame them for trying. Maybe someone can do Moomba did and simply add a piece like picture.
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        • NoBoatYet
          • Feb 2004
          • 9



          #5
          I have the same issue. I have a 2011 210 with Linc 1. Have to say I'm disappointed how quickly they orphaned that technology. Seriously, what kind of computing power do you need to operate the NSS?

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          • dfoster
            • Mar 2012
            • 134

            • Northborough, MA

            • 2004 SV211 TE

            #6
            Originally posted by NoBoatYet View Post
            I have the same issue. I have a 2011 210 with Linc 1. Have to say I'm disappointed how quickly they orphaned that technology. Seriously, what kind of computing power do you need to operate the NSS?
            The answer is NONE. NSS runs with basic Lenco actuators. So it can be run with a switch. That said, if you have them out and forget about them, at a higher speed you could damage your transom or lose control and then want to sue Nautique, so they won't do it. If you can get the parts (which they won't let a dealer sell to you) you could rig up the controls for less than $100. Speed control is important if you want something safe which takes a bit more smarts, but not hard to build.

            Really, with what we have figured out on this board we could make one that anybody could use, but Nautique would sue us for patent infringement... and they would be right. I can make one for myself based on their patent, but I can't make a copy of it and sell it. So we can all just sit here and help each other make hand made units... unless someone out there is a good attorney and can figure out a way around the lawsuits.

            Really, it would be great if Nautique would license it to someone who would be willing to do the research and build it for older 210s and 211s... should be a decent market. I don't blame Nautique, but I doubt they would bother to do it.

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            • s_kelley2000
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1575
              • Fort Meadow Recevoir

              • Mass

              • 2012 Super Air Nautique 230 1999 Nautique Super Sport with 502 Python (for Sale)

              #7
              Doug, have you done any more work on your system as far as adding actuators and controls? I love the simplicity of your manual test design and I may do something similar if I get the time this spring/summer. I finally starting seeing some open water this week so hopefully it won't be too much longer before this long winter is over

              Here is a link to Doug's thread and some other DIY NSS threads if the OP or anybody else is looking for inspiration:

              http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...IY-NSS-project

              http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...made-NSS-build

              http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...4-Diy-nss-200v

              http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...-project-99-SN
              Shawn

              2012 Blue Metal Flake SAN 230

              1999 Black and Tan Python 502 Powered Super Sport (for Sale)

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              • NoBoatYet
                • Feb 2004
                • 9



                #8
                Originally posted by dfoster View Post
                The answer is NONE. NSS runs with basic Lenco actuators. So it can be run with a switch. That said, if you have them out and forget about them, at a higher speed you could damage your transom or lose control and then want to sue Nautique, so they won't do it. If you can get the parts (which they won't let a dealer sell to you) you could rig up the controls for less than $100. Speed control is important if you want something safe which takes a bit more smarts, but not hard to build.

                Really, with what we have figured out on this board we could make one that anybody could use, but Nautique would sue us for patent infringement... and they would be right. I can make one for myself based on their patent, but I can't make a copy of it and sell it. So we can all just sit here and help each other make hand made units... unless someone out there is a good attorney and can figure out a way around the lawsuits.

                Really, it would be great if Nautique would license it to someone who would be willing to do the research and build it for older 210s and 211s... should be a decent market. I don't blame Nautique, but I doubt they would bother to do it.
                This is the frustrating part. They could easily upgrade Linc 1 to work this but they simply refuse. Shame on them.

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                • scottb7
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2198

                  • Carson City, Nevada

                  • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                  #9
                  My opinion is that Nautique is somewhat more into selling boats than they are keeping current owners happy. It is a free country though and it seems to be working for them. Just upgrade. These boats hardly depreciate, right?

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                  • ers906
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 921

                    • Phoenix AZ

                    • 2013 G23 550 hp (ordered and awaiting delivery) 2002 Super Sport (coverted into a SAN) 330 hp Excaliber 1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp 1989 Horizon 200 Four Winns - sold 1989 Regal Commodore 280 - previous Possibly looking into picking up a 70'2-80's Nautique to rebuild as a ski boat

                    #10
                    Not sure that they are not into keeping the current owners happy, I believe that it more of a cost benefit situation. The transoms of the older boats are not likely designed to take the hydrodynamic forces that the NSS creates, or the $ required to test each model and year is cost prohibitive in relation to the potential profitability. Opening themselves up to significant legal repercussions (not only the boat costs, but after the lawsuit that MC was hit with re: people not paying attention to the number of people in the bow, etc, the potential injury etc) is probably not worth it in the long run for them. I imagine that the idea of the NSS started around the same time the Linc 2 was being developed, so the engineers likely designed the newer boats with it in mind. Just a guess though
                    Eric, Phoenix AZ

                    G23 550 hp (finally here)
                    2002 Super Air
                    1994 Sun Tracker Party Barge 115 hp

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