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  • High altitude
    • Oct 2011
    • 206

    • Larkspur, CO

    • 2014 SN 200 OB

    #1

    200V at altitude with a 343

    I'm getting more serious about replacing my '99 SN. I think I have settled on a Sport 200V. I'm looking around and don't see very many used ones with the 409. I'm looking for opinions on whether or not the 343 will be sufficient. My lake is at 7000 ft and we will use the boat to surf (boat usually will have 2-5, but plan to have about 1000 lbs of additional sacs beyond stock) and to ski. The skiing will all be on the course and I have a few friends who ski at 36 MPH although I personally am at 32+. The setup time on the course is pretty standard for a 2200 ft lake but I expect the 200 to slow considerably around the turn islands. I'm going to try have Action Water Sports (new Nautique Dealer!) come out to our lake and do a demo day (with a 343) but I'm interested to hear the opinions first. Also, any additional insights about the 200V would be very welcome. Thanks in advance! -Marc
  • High altitude
    • Oct 2011
    • 206

    • Larkspur, CO

    • 2014 SN 200 OB

    #2
    Bump? What about general comments comparing the 343 to the 409?

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    • 81nautique
      • Feb 2006
      • 257

      • Big Rock, Illinois

      • 2012 200 Sport 1956 Correct Craft Collegian Past boats 1955 Correct Craft Hurricane 81 Anniversary Nautique 1960 GlassCraft Ski Nautique #1

      #3
      Ok general comment. Have you skied the 200v? If you're at 15off 32 mph you ain't gonna like it. Faster and shorter is so much better but if your at that entry level on the course I think you'll struggle with it. I would demo it before making my mind up that this is your new boat.

      I do think any HP deficiencies at altitude can be over come with a prop change, I think if you prop down for surfing that will only help your short course entry as well. You won't have any problems with the 200 around the turn islands, it's still pretty nimble for a v drive. Also if you don't barefoot you don't need the 409, the 343 will do everything you need as well as handle the extra ballast.

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      • High altitude
        • Oct 2011
        • 206

        • Larkspur, CO

        • 2014 SN 200 OB

        #4
        Thanks for the inputs. I definitely plan to have a 200V on our lake before I buy. I really want a do-it-all boat but the slalom wake has to be reasonable. Interesting take on the 343. My neighbor has a 210 with the 343 and it has never had issues. I was just wondering when I propped it down if it could still hit 36 with no problem.

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        • Lakejackson
          • May 2012
          • 160

          • Lake

          • 2011 Sport 200

          #5
          I just purchased a 2011 200V this summer and i have to say it is the best do all boat. 81nautique is correct that at 15 off and slower speeds the wake is not as good and flattens with higher speed and shorter line. However, it is also a very good wakeboard and wakesurf boat. Remember its a crossover and it doesnt do anything great, but in my opinion it does everything very well. You need to take everything into account. I came from a 2004 air nautique 216, that was also a great do all boat, but the 200v is so much better in all respects, comfort, ride, etc. etc. i have the 409 and am very happy. The top speed is around 45, so it is better for barefooting than the 343, but I would have taken either motor. The boat i found just happened to have the 409.

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          • jhersey29
            • Nov 2013
            • 330

            • Colorado

            • 1971 Correct Craft Mustang 1988 Ski Nautique 1992 Ski Nautique 1999 Ski Nautique

            #6
            Your going to find it tough to beat that slalom wake. Get 2 boats you won't be happy slaloming behind any crossover.
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            • High altitude
              • Oct 2011
              • 206

              • Larkspur, CO

              • 2014 SN 200 OB

              #7
              Two boats is just not an option. I don't want two boat slips/lifts/mx etc.

              Maybe I need to consider a 200 OB with a tower and just add some sacs for surfing.

              For people that have the 409...what does it take to winterize? I end up doing that quite a bit in Colorado as we go through cold spells in the fall and spring.

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              • mpc
                • Nov 2012
                • 54

                • West Vancouver, BC


                #8
                High altitude, I have a 2013 200V with the 409. I am very happy with the engine and not lacking power but I operate not far off of sea level. The other day with just myself and a full tank of fuel I hit 47 mph. This boat can definitely barefoot. I am not sure of the winterizing as the dealer does that. I would suggest getting the 409 if you can as I believe it is better to have the power than be looking for it. In saying that I have only heard great things from those that have the 343. As far as skiing, is that your primary use and if so at what speed and length. 28 off it is as smooth as butter (0 off is great too), 15 off has a hard ridge that takes a bit getting used to but flattens a bit if you move the speed up to 35/36. This boat wake boards and wake surfs well and does benefit from added ballast. The new 400lb Ronix bags fit well in the back two storage compartments directly on top of the stock built-in hard tanks. A third 400lb Ronix sac fits real well in the center walk/pass through to the bow seating. It does all very well but not the best at anyone of the three. If your skiing speed and length works for this boat then this is the ideal cross-over. Good Luck in your trial on your lake.

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                • OKWAKEBDR
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • May 2005
                  • 750

                  • Lakefront

                  • 2017 Super Air Nautique G23

                  #9
                  I used to live in CO, so I'm familiar with the altitude. 343 on a 200V for surfing and skiing will be fine with the right prop. I agree with the comment above that you'd only really need the 409 if you wanted to barefoot, but I'm guessing you're not doing that on a 2200 ft long lake anyway..

                  I don't think you will like surfing a 200 OB. "Just adding sacs for surfing" doesn't always get the job done. However, the more important question is, how deep is your lake? I know most slalom lakes are only 6-8 feet deep. You're really going to need 12-15 ft minimum to get a good surf wake.
                  Current: 2017 G23
                  Previous: 2012 210 TE (former PN boat), 2005 210 TE, 2001 X-Star

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                  • High altitude
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 206

                    • Larkspur, CO

                    • 2014 SN 200 OB

                    #10
                    We regularly surf on my lake as it's about 15 ft deep. I surf on my friends 2004 SAN and my SN. My SN with 1700 lbs of weight (people and ballast) puts out a very respectable wave. I assume with the same weight the 200 OB would do the same.

                    After reading many of the comments (plus reading a ton of old threads) I am leaning back towards the 200 OB because skiing is a priority for me. I ski at 32mph at 15 off through the course and from everything I hear, the 200V will leave me wanting at that line length and speed.

                    It sounds like the 343 will have plenty of power but if I can pick up a 409, I obviously wouldn't turn it down. It will come down to what's available next year after I sell my boat. Right now I think I can pick up a used '11 200OB for about $40k. I will want to have a tower but I can always add that on after I make my purchase. Needless to say....there are only a few 200OB's being sold with the tower as compared to without. I surely don't want to limit myself when shopping in the used market. There is a 200OB for $32K in Fl with 1200 hours. If I had already sold my boat, I might have been all over that one. -Marc

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