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  • 99SAN
    • Oct 2010
    • 172

    • Roll Tide


    #1

    Surfing behind 99 san

    Well, we have been trying to surf for a few weeks now and we can't go ropeless. I have a 750 (80% full, manual pump) and the 650 ski locker was 90% full due to the air not wanting to bleed out. So at least 1000lbs. I'm riding a shred stixx carbon sixer and also a broadcast. I tried every spot on the wave to get push but could only get a little push 1-2' from the platform.What am I doing wrong. Anyone have a video riding behind a older super air? Left my gopro at home so I won't have a video until next weekend.
  • Chexi
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Apr 2025
    • 2119

    • Austin

    • 2000 SAN

    #2
    Add at least 400 lbs to the bow and a 400lb sac (or people) on the surf side seats in the wraparound seat area. That should do the trick.
    Now
    2000 SAN

    Previously
    1999 Air Nautique
    1996 Tige Pre-2000
    1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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    • 99SAN
      • Oct 2010
      • 172

      • Roll Tide


      #3
      Originally posted by Chexi View Post
      Add at least 400 lbs to the bow and a 400lb sac (or people) on the surf side seats in the wraparound seat area. That should do the trick.
      Are these boats really that hard to surf. Do u think I'm doing something wrong. 1000-1100 lbs (sitting sideways) & 200lbs sand in the bow I forgot about + 250 in people. The wave was huge at 9mph but we tried surfing from 9-11mph

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      • stewartsnow
        • Apr 2011
        • 43

        • Vernon BC

        • '00 SAN Python '87 2001

        #4
        Need more weight still
        2000 SAN
        Python powered

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        • stewartsnow
          • Apr 2011
          • 43

          • Vernon BC

          • '00 SAN Python '87 2001

          #5
          For port side surf I do this for my '00 SAN:
          750 by engine
          2-400's in seating area. One on port side
          floor and other on seat above
          600 in ski locker
          Then I'll have people sit at back of boat. When your driving boat hop over to port side seat while holding steering wheel to see if wave cleans up
          2000 SAN
          Python powered

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          • markj
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 1194

            • NorCal

            • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

            #6
            Yep. More weight. IMO if the water isn't near the top of your gunnel, you need more weight. It at least has to be at your rub rail minimum. We're all goofy so I use a 350 on top of the rear factory tank and 2 350s behind the driver's seat with an additional 350 between the driver and observer. Total of 4 350 lb sacks. Factory belly tank full too. Oh, and rear port side empty usually. Depends on people. I can't remember where the vents are on the 99 but we just temporarily duct tape our vents on my 05 shut so water doesn't get in. You also may want to consider taping your bilge outlet shut while you're surfing too or putting a check valve in place so water doesn't back feed into your bilge while you're listed over.

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            • markj
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 1194

              • NorCal

              • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

              #7
              Based on a comment from an earlier post, I should clarify my earlier statement and say that the water level should be at or above the rub rail while surfing. Not while sitting idle. Don't want any newbies sinking their boat. Carry on...

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              • 99SAN
                • Oct 2010
                • 172

                • Roll Tide


                #8
                Ok, thanks guys. More weight it is. I have more sacs but didn't fill them. I'll get shoot some video next weekend. Oh what speed are u guys running. I have read 10-11mph dose that seem correct?
                Last edited by 99SAN; 08-18-2014, 07:31 AM.

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                • Chexi
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Apr 2025
                  • 2119

                  • Austin

                  • 2000 SAN

                  #9
                  When I used to surf, I would typically run about 10.8 - 11.5.

                  Now that I have given you this knowledge, if I hear you are surfing in butter at 7 am when other people are trying to ski, wakeboard, or foil (as I saw 4 different surf boats doing this past Sunday morning on Lake Austin at 7 am), I'm going to have to track you down and kill you. Please be respectful of others and take the surfing to the choppier areas of the water. I'm not saying this specficially to you, but to all wakesurfers.
                  Now
                  2000 SAN

                  Previously
                  1999 Air Nautique
                  1996 Tige Pre-2000
                  1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                  • 99SAN
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 172

                    • Roll Tide


                    #10
                    Thanks chexi, I ride on the small part of the river and we rarely see anyone.

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                    • surroundsound64
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 2147

                      • Longview, TX

                      • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                      #11
                      I have 750 in the port locket and only 375 in the ski locker and with my wife and 3 and 4 yr old I can EASILY surf ropeless.
                      2018 SAN 230
                      1981 Ski Nautique
                      Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                      Sold - 2000 SAN

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                      • Chexi
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2025
                        • 2119

                        • Austin

                        • 2000 SAN

                        #12
                        Yes, but you will get a better wave with a much longer pocket with some weight in the bow too. With the setup you described, I used to be ablt to surf too, but I couldn't travel far back without losing the push of the wave. Granted, great technique will save you, but most of us do not have great technique.
                        Now
                        2000 SAN

                        Previously
                        1999 Air Nautique
                        1996 Tige Pre-2000
                        1989 Lowe 24' Pontoon / Johnson 100HP outboard

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                        • markj
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1194

                          • NorCal

                          • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chexi View Post
                          Yes, but you will get a better wave with a much longer pocket with some weight in the bow too. With the setup you described, I used to be ablt to surf too, but I couldn't travel far back without losing the push of the wave. Granted, great technique will save you, but most of us do not have great technique.
                          Could it be more obvious that chexi is a closet surfer? I'd bet money that he is... or will be soon. Just like everyone else that likes riding sideways and still wants to maintain a career without fear of injury/income loss.

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                          • 99SAN
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 172

                            • Roll Tide


                            #14
                            Chexi deffinitly surfs I do wakeboard but Im always sore for a few days, that's why we are trying to surf. Like mark said we all have to maintain a career.

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                            • 99SAN
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 172

                              • Roll Tide


                              #15
                              When you guys fill the 750s up, How much room is there on top of the bag. It seems like my compartment was only 1/2 way full

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