I know it's a vague question and there are a lot of models. But, to my surf specific PN friends, how does centurion stack up to a 210, or G series? I've had a few birds chirping in my ear about how great they are being west coast and starting the whole surf craze.
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The centurion FX series throws a great wakeboard wake and surf wake. The wakeboard wake is not as nice as a G, but it quite good and with the rapid fill ballast and CATS system, extremely user friendly.
The surf wake of the FX is great, although not their best surfing boat. I would say the G is a good surfing boat that because of its exceptionally high gunwale, can be highly weighted achieving a great surf wake. The NSS makes generation of the surf wake a snap. But what gets users that monster surf wake on a G is 5000 lbs of ballast (stock and a few thousand more).
Looking at inherent surf wake per pound of ballast added, in other words how easy is it to generate a large well shaped surf wake, I would say Centurion and MB do a better job than a G or 210. But all surf exceptionally well. I would argue that boats with technology to make the boat run sideways to generate a surf wake (NSS, Surfgate, CATS) are safer to drive while surfing than boats that only rely on unilateral ballast and lean.
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It really depends on what kind of surf wake you are looking for. Centurion had been the leader and the bench mark for pro caliber surf waves. If you are purely looking for the biggest baddest surfwakes with tons if ballast (listed/leaning low) Centurion is going to take the cake.
However if you need the convenience of swapping sides sides quickly, not running a ton of ballast, and are looking for a great surf wake I believe the G and 230 edge it out purely on the convenience factor with NSS. It also makes driving while surfing with NSS much more pleasureable because the boat isn't leaning all the way over. So there are sine advantages there as well. Again tho if you sacked out a g/230/210/Enzo or Fx with maximum weight I think the Centurion will be noticeably ahead. Not by a large margin, but just enough to make it noticeably longer with a much smoother transition.
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we see the Inland Surfer's Centurion out on Lake Sammamish every once and a while. Clearly they have that thing dialed in with a huge wave and a really long pocket. I don't know how much ballast they have on it but at 23 or 24 feet, it is a beast of a hull so that's got a lot to do with it. I have looked at the Centurions a few years back at the boat show and they fit and finish is kind of 'meh'.2010 Super Air Nautique 210 Team Edition
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i surf a 210, g, centurion and an mc 46. i live in a wealthy neighbourhood on the water. me being the non wealthy one, ironically im the one giving surfing lessons to everyone on their boats. my fav is the 14, 210. the centurion might (might) have a bigger, longer wave, but the g and especially the 210 sets up in minutes. surfs both sides well and surfs well with or without a large crew. in my opnion, nautique is the market leader. the x 46 has a big wave, but the setup time is a joke. sacked to death, listed heavily, even with gen 2 system and changing sides is a disaster. everybody pics the 210. its owner laughs because hes put 120hours on this summer and the others only 30. its supposed to be equal sharing between the four when they surf together.
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The only Nautiques I really know well surf wise are the G23s.
I have been on all the new 2014 Centurions. 244, Fx44 and 233.
i will tell you this... Spend 2-3hrs surfing and driving each and then make your decision, based on the variables that are important to you.
Depends on your surf style preferences, budget, and styling prefs. Also, lots of other intangibles that you may or may not find important or relevant. Also, super important...which dealer has the best service and reputation.
244 is their best model by a mile IMO, I'd start there, drive and surf companies thoroughly.2019 G23 450
2014 G23 550
2013 G23 450
2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
2007 Yamaha AR210
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Budget? Pfft, look at the prices on all these boats!
Been on the Enzo, and a few others including that hideous looking MB. The big MB is just ugly. I've seen nothing but smiles behind my 210 and i'm stock '13 ballast! That's half of the 14 ballast weight. It's all about dialing it in for your usage. I personally would have bought the G but it's not in my budget.2013 SANTE 210
2011 Sport 200 V
1994 Bimini Skier Pro 190
1986 Master Craft Pro Star 190
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do not have any outside experience with other makes, but know the G23 is fun and has a quick set up time and surfs great with just the driver, what I do wish is that the Nautique engineers would come up with a visual signal for the rider(light) so its a positive sign while switching (port to starboard), i know there are some members that have done this , lets hear what you have done and how you did it...2013 G23 super air
2010 230 super air
2009 220 super air
2008 210 super air
2005 210 super air
2003 calabria pro air
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It has already been said, but you really have to get the dealers to allow you some time on the water with their boats and demo each of them that you are interested in. Prior to doing so, I suggest making a list of the things that you like and dislike about your current & previous boats - obviously try to find the boat with the most likes and least dislikes. We recently went through this and left Tige for our G23. Centurion was very much on our radar as well, as the Centurion dealer was trying to earn our business before and since we purchased the Tige. For our family, we were looking for simple set up, storage, a good supporting dealer fairly close, good build quality and hopefully something that will still have value when the time comes to trade or part ways.
With regards to the Centurion, our family could not get past the amount of list required (much more than our Tige) for a surf wave, we just determined that we didn't feel entirely safe and either would our guests unfamiliar with wakeboats. Does Centurion put out a great surf wave...**** yeah they do, but with heavy list and sacrifice of all surf side storage. To get the wave, they fill the entire rear compartment, the bow and up under the surfside seat - very little storage left when surfing and moving things from side to side - not so with the G. Yes, Centurion may have a world class pro grade wave, but we are a family and I am not a pro, and most likely will not be. Coming from a Tige with the touch screen (all on one side), I was leary about another touch screen, however the Centurion screen is more responsive but we like the idea of buttons. To me the helm was overly cluttered, touch screen on the right - very low - CATS and Plate adjustment on each side of the column, main buttions and switches with the stereo remote all on the left. To us, we evaluated all these little things that would most likely bother us...we wanted somethign easy that would make our time out with friends more enjoyable for us and less work like effort. Centurion does not have the hinged seats, so you still have to pull up the cushion and place it somewhere for access to storage/sacs. That aside, even though I didn't find the interior lines as pleasing to the eye, the interior quality seemed to be right up there (dash aside). Oh yeah, I hated the way their obsever seat goes out into the walkway towards the drivers seat - it made it odd going up to the bow, we had to kinda turn sideways or step over the corner - again, the little things. I do believe that Centurion does a better job with their fiberglass work. The Centurions we looked at had very "smooth" looking glass, look at it from bow to stern it is smooth where most of the Nautiques seemed to have some "waves" in the side of the hull.
Long story short, figure out what is important to you, your family and crew and get out and demo the boats. Above I simply stated a few of the things that we looked at/for or noticed when we were comparing these 2 brands. Also, as mentioned by others, dealer support is also key to a happy summer on the water.
Good Luck,
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