Just for the heck of it...

[skinautique]

If you were to have a say in a design for a new boat, what would you do with it? This can include any aspect of any type of boat. I will throw a poll on this post too. (gotta keep this interesting for all of you that have your boats winterized now!!)

[M3Fan]

CC Designs generally kick a$$. The tiny, snubby nose of the SN closed bow is a classic look since the 70's. Love it. It is a true inboard look- imo MC's and Malibu's have much more of an I/O profile. The only design I would change is to have the option of the classic SKI NAUTIQUE lettering on the side, much like MC did in 93 by offering Stars & Stripes again for one year.

[Hollywood]

A new Stars/Stripes model would be HOT! I would almost say they have too many boats in their line up. That didn't appear to be an option though.

[Rick-S.]

Ditto what Hollywood said about too many boats in the CC lineup. I too looked for that option on the poll.

[lcap]

Build a piece of athletic equipment that works.

Seek perfection in the hull design. Once it is achieved--STAY WITH IT
Seek perfection in the interior--form over function
Seek perfection in the trailer--STAY WITH IT. Yes CC a trailer is part of the equipment package.

I would seek input from the ones that use the boats for their intended purposes and make the changes.

Allow the customer the ability to choose the colors, patterns, graphics/no graphics on the hull and interior. If someone wanted a new boat with stars and stripes colors and patterns, I would build it.

CC's competitors will do this for less than the built in upcharge for the "optional" hull color in the team package.

KEEP IT SIMPLE

If a $500,000 Aston Martin still utilizes a "keyed" ignition, I think I can do without it on a $50,000 BOAT. Just one more extremely expensive thing that will break, and it will break on the first day of a two week houseboat trip when closest dealer is 8 hours or more away.

At least I learned how to hot wire the thing.

No, I do not own a competitors boat. Unfortunately, just sold my CC that was as close to perfection as I have ever owned.

I am still too young and stupid to realize; new is not always better--especially in the boating world.

[skinautique]

are you referring to the TSC and TSC2 hull design?
They changed the tsc for a couple of reasons. One: the mold got old. Two: they wanted a new interior with a trunk and larger interior room and three, they need to up the bar in the industry. Malibu did a similar thing with their new Response LXi. They have what many thought was a great slalom wake in the LX but they brought out something else to go along withi it. As far as the trailer, what are your complaints? That it isn't built by Correct Craft? I am not sure I understand the interior comment either? Not trying to be ignorant, I just don't follow what you are saying. :?

[AbunDiga909]

I think CC has the perfect amount of boats in their linup. They really do have a perfect boat for every scanario. If your looking for anything bigger than a 226...your probably better off in a Cobalt. Anyway, When i went to the NY boat show, which i will go this year also, i went to MC and i had no clue how to understand their linup. they have too many boats! Have you ever seen a relatively new X10 or X30? I haven't... I haven't even seen a new X9 or X7 on the water. And what about that new X80 and the Maristar Fork Bow version...I think that will sell less than half of the 226...and i am yet to see a 226 on the water...So compared to other companies, CC has the perfect Lineup!

[lcap]

Forgive me, I thought the question was:

If you were to have a say in a design for a new boat, what would you do with it?

I am not a manufacturer who has to produce X number of boats a year to stay in business. Consequently, my answer to the hypothetical question may or may not hold water. The trailer was a jab at CC and a very valid one

I understand the perception that to attract new boat purchase's they have to be marketed as "new and improved." The hook is usually the all new and improved hull design. When the hull remains the same, we are marketed with the notion new gel coat patterns, interior layout, colors and graphics are reason enough to trade in the old and outdated for the new and improved.

Perhaps allowing people to have choices may be not be so bad.

My tandem axle trailer hits the prop guard leaving parking lots, our boat launch and my driveway. Yes I know they have rollers, and yes I now have them, and yes MC offers them as standard equipment. When the river is low the front cross member hits. No solution from dealer or manufacturer. Covers come off the bearing buddies and grease goes everywhere. The boat travels with me. The front bunk pad has rubbed the gelcoat too the fiberglass--thankfully I don't have a colored bottom! Dealer never fixed, manufacturer would not offer a solution.

CC never fixed this, if I order a new SAN, have to order a single axle trailer--form over function.

I'd forgo that ($2,000) keyless ignition for a keyed ignition ($5.00), a tandem axle trailer with disk brakes, led lights, and an alternative to bearing buddies.

And while I'm at it, how about boat buddies. Got into the bad habit of powerloading my MC fifteen years ago and the habit dies hard.

[AbunDiga909]

Forgive me, I thought the question was:

If you were to have a say in a design for a new boat, what would you do with it?

I am not a manufacturer who has to produce X number of boats a year to stay in business. Consequently, my answer to the hypothetical question may or may not hold water. The trailer was a jab at CC and a very valid one

I understand the perception that to attract new boat purchase's they have to be marketed as "new and improved." The hook is usually the all new and improved hull design. When the hull remains the same, we are marketed with the notion new gel coat patterns, interior layout, colors and graphics are reason enough to trade in the old and outdated for the new and improved.

Perhaps allowing people to have choices may be not be so bad.

My tandem axle trailer hits the prop guard leaving parking lots, our boat launch and my driveway. Yes I know they have rollers, and yes I now have them, and yes MC offers them as standard equipment. When the river is low the front cross member hits. No solution from dealer or manufacturer. Covers come off the bearing buddies and grease goes everywhere. The boat travels with me. The front bunk pad has rubbed the gelcoat too the fiberglass--thankfully I don't have a colored bottom! Dealer never fixed, manufacturer would not offer a solution.

CC never fixed this, if I order a new SAN, have to order a single axle trailer--form over function.

I'd forgo that ($2,000) keyless ignition for a keyed ignition ($5.00), a tandem axle trailer with disk brakes, led lights, and an alternative to bearing buddies.

And while I'm at it, how about boat buddies. Got into the bad habit of powerloading my MC fifteen years ago and the habit dies hard.

So are you saying not to get the tandem axle trailer? Because we went out of our way to get one and we hear it can only be better. How can it be worse? Wouldn't it hit the bottom anyway if it was a single axle? We have an 82 Ski Nautique and to get it out of the garage, there is a small hump that it has to go over and the bottom of the trailer at the back always scrapes...we've lost the three park lights on the back bottom of the trailer many, many, many times....and its single axle...i figure if it is tandem, it wouldnt' hit because the rear axle would keep it higher off the ground, not letting it hit....

True???

[skinautique]

There is still a possibility of it hitting. I would just add rollers to the bottom of the prop guard and you are all set. The only real draw backs to tandems are manuvering them by hand and moving them in tight spaces. Other than that, I would get one!!

[lcap]

I loved my CC that I just sold. Skied, Air Chaired, Boarded, and disked for 9 seasons for fuel, oil and gas.--Amazing

Loved my wife for insisting on buying a new boat.

Still hate the trailers, protected dealer network and the limited choices on a new one. In a weak moment tried to like MC's again.

Like to be build an old school boat--all white with thin 1" sky blue/ faded yellow stripe. Old Correct Craft Emblem at the transom. Teak platform, wood dash, wooden Lecarra steering wheel, wood throttle knob, tuck rolled interior, with a green tinted windshield.

No Tape No Graphics

[lcap]

AbunDiga909,

Measure the height of the trailers single vs. tandem. Single is 1.5" higher than tandem.

Local dealer quoted $800 to have the rollers welded on.

The rollers to not help the problem of the front crossmember hitting. For this their is no cure.

Mastercraft solved the problem with integrated rollers, and torsion axles to raise the height.

Seems to be a big enough problem the competition has done something about it! In fairness to CC if you explain your concern to your salesperson, they will (at least mine did) recommend a single axle trailer on a SAN at a hefty 3,200 lbs dry.

Thank god the tow rigs have four wheel disk brakes to stop that big bad boy sittin on a single axle with drum brakes.

Thanks CC

[MarkP]

lcap wrote


[/quote]In fairness to CC if you explain your concern to your salesperson, they will (at least mine did) recommend a single axle trailer on a SAN at a hefty 3,200 lbs dry.

Thank god the tow rigs have four wheel disk brakes to stop that big bad boy sittin on a single axle with drum brakes.

Thanks CC


This is what you will get with them big boys sittin on a single axle trailer :oops: http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/m...183/80670.html

[Hollywood]

Uh, I don't the mid/late 80's SNs weigh over 3k lbs. and all practically all were/are on single axle trailers with crappy surge brakes? I've never seen this happen with a one of those Atwood/Ski Nautique trailers.

If you read the rest of the thread, Boat Mate recognized it was a freak accident and got the owner a new trailer. More [axles] isn't always better.

[lcap]

Published weight for an 04 SAN is "approximately 3,190 lbs." Approximately must be "dry." Add fuel, equipment, etc easily over 3,500 lbs.

Invoice for the proposed trailer for the boat:

"Tandem axle trailer, 21'T Super AIr V-Dr GVWR: 5720#......'Brakes, hydraulic surge: DRUM ON ONE (1) 3500# Axle."