2013 SANTE what does it really weigh?

[darthwhitey]

Looking at towing vehicles and wondered if anyone has done a "real world" test of weight on a 2013 SANTE?

I think Nautique lists it's dry weight at about 4200 lbs?

37 gallon gas tank adds about 300 lbs when full?

Wondering what the real weight is with trailer?

I just need a vehicle to pull it back and forth from dealer and maybe short trips. Never really loaded with gear.

thanks!

[nyryan2001]

expereince shows us to add as much as 1500-2000 +/- to dry weights... depending on your trailer, engine, options, fuel and gear.

Also, folks could better help you if you were to specify which model SANTE.

[darthwhitey]

Ooops...sorry

2013 SANTE 210 with the 409hp engine

2000 extra lbs...? WOW

Anybody ever weighed just the trailer?

[Quinner]

Guessing in the Midwest you will get a Ramlin, Eagle or Boatmate?? Would figure trailer roughly 900 lbs single axle & 1,100 lbs for dual, if you know which mfr you are going with call them to confirm exact weight. 300lbs for fuel however you should always try and tow with as little fuel as possible, after that what is going to be in the boat, figure around 500lbs, maybe 1,000lbs additional more conservatively or on a long haul.

[dttheel]

I think Quinner is right. Owner's manual says approximately 3800lbs (just boat, empty). Add the trailer weight plus any gear on board and a few hundred pounds for team edition (and your larger engine) and you are over 5000lbs. I'm in the same place as you, looking at a 2nd vehicle that could tow the boat in a pinch. It really limits you to a full size truck type of vehicle.

[cedarcreek216]

We have the same boat in question and a friend is thinking about buying one so he wanted to tow it with his vehicle to see how it did. He owns a 2014 Ford Explorer Sport and it towed it perfectly fine. Pulled it out of the water, to the shed and backed it right in. Total distance about 10 miles put several of those at highway speeds. Felt %100 comfortable with it so I would say short distance toes a mid-size SUV is plenty. I would not pull it hours at high speed for fear of the tail wagging the dogs but for what you mention I think you have a lot of options.


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[seth]

Just get a new Colorado, it comes with a matching 210.

[core-rider]

People are always worried about will X vehicle pull Y boat well... The first thing I ask is how well will it STOP? Anything can pull to a certain degree, but not everything will stop well if needed. Many smaller, lighter vehicles get pushed all over the road in a panic stop/heavy braking situation. If you're driving a bit of highway I would put some good thought into that.

Stay safe folks!


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[cedarcreek216]

Is stopping really a huge issue any more with the advancement of trailer brakes? I mean that as a real question, not one to challenge core-rider.

I always consider highway speeds and swaying to be the most vulnerable time when towing, not braking.


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[Nordicron]

All i know is my 5.3L suburban seems about at capacity towing my 08 210. I'm always full of fuel plus got 500lbs lead in it. I wouldn't want any less vehicle I'll say that.

[SkiTower]

I would want to be able to stop the vehicle should the trailer brakes go out personally. An Explorer Sport or Colorado kinda scares me.


2007 SV211 SE

[darthwhitey]

Yeah, I figured it's gotta be over 5000#'s.

I've kinda ruled out many of the SUV's that are rated for 5000#'s. (Like the new Ford Explorer, etc)

I know the logical option is a full-size pickup (GMC Sierra or Ford F-150) or a big SUV (Ford Expedition, GMC Yukon, etc).

My last tow vehicle was a 2012 Mercedes GL-450 and it pulled it without any trouble at all. I always felt very secure in it. Of course that trucks rated at 7500#'s.

I'm wondering how the new Audi Q7 TDI Diesel will do (rated 6600#'s with tow package) or the BMW X5 (rated for 5952#'s).

For the record, I don't go on long trips or load the boat down with gear when towing. I mainly only go the 45 miles back and forth to the dealer a couple times a year.

[core-rider]

Is stopping really a huge issue any more with the advancement of trailer brakes? I mean that as a real question, not one to challenge core-rider.

I always consider highway speeds and swaying to be the most vulnerable time when towing, not braking.


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There have been a few times when I have asked myself if the trailer brakes worked on mine. Just seemed like more effort was needed to stop than usual. On those days I was glad I have a full-size truck. If the trailer has electronic brakes then maybe I wouldn't be as cautious, but older style mechanical brakes I sometimes second guess. Plus in a panic braking situation you want all you can get!

[beach]

I would want to be able to stop the vehicle should the trailer brakes go out personally. An Explorer Sport or Colorado kinda scares me.


2007 SV211 SE

The new colorados are the same size as your F150 or a Silverado of similar vintage, except with better fuel economy. Actually depending on your bed length, the colorado might have a longer wheelbase.

Plus correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 409 lighter than the 343 since it has an aluminum block?

The new SAE tow ratings have pretty strict requirements when it comes to stability/braking. I'd check to see if the German manufacturers are testing with the new standards. See: http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...ss_sniff_test/

If the boat weighs 4200lbs, 300lbs for gas, 200lbs for gear, and 1200 for tandem trailer, you'd be really close to the limit with an x5.

I had my old 210's trailer's master cylinder fail. It was during a couple hour tow and it gradually lost pressure/fluid, so I noticed the clunk more than the decrease in braking. I thought the shock had gone bad. I honestly thought having no brakes would have been more noticeable. I did get cut off by an ahole on that drive and had to slam on my bakes. I fixed it before I towed again and did notice a big improvement them. I guess my point is that it wasn't as horrifying as I would have thought. I tow with a 4runner.

[Laptom]

Why is a truck a better tow car? When the truck is empty, the main weight is on the front axle. Sounds like a disaster when you have an emergency brake situation.
Also the brakes on a truck were never that advanced.
A good trailer with good brakes will only add 5-10% to you brake distance, the car does not need to stop the trailer, it only needs to engage the brakes on the trailer.

I think that most of here are in the ballpark. Around 2000 lbs adding to the boat weight.