Ride Quality on Super Air 230 and G23 boats?

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  • Nordicron
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Sep 2009
    • 557

    • Madison, WI


    #31
    Idk all this talk of pulling tubes and a G boat doesn't make any sense to me. A G slinging kids around on a tube just doesn't seem right!
    Sounds like general boating fun and casual waters sports are all this boat is ever gonna be for. Seems the perfect boat for this application is gonna be a 230. It's a big enough boat to handle any water that u want to be on and will surf and pull tubes pretty darn well. Also cruise very nice. Not to mention can be bought for quite a bit less money. Also if this boat is towed on a regular basis it will be much better a boat for this application.

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    • vision
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jul 2011
      • 518

      • NC

      • 2013 G23

      #32
      Originally posted by Nordicron View Post
      Idk all this talk of pulling tubes and a G boat doesn't make any sense to me. A G slinging kids around on a tube just doesn't seem right!
      Sounds like general boating fun and casual waters sports are all this boat is ever gonna be for. Seems the perfect boat for this application is gonna be a 230. It's a big enough boat to handle any water that u want to be on and will surf and pull tubes pretty darn well. Also cruise very nice. Not to mention can be bought for quite a bit less money. Also if this boat is towed on a regular basis it will be much better a boat for this application.

      Agreed. The 230 handles substantially better than a G which as well. In addition to being a bus on the water, the high gunwale of the Gs make docking on windy days more challenging.

      But, I will say the G series are much better for novice wake boarders than a 230. The G achieves a clean wake at slower speeds. In addition, the G surfs better stock than a 230.

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      • Noahsark
        • Nov 2014
        • 78

        • Virginia


        #33
        So are you saying the 230 is a little better about all around boating? If this is true maybe I need to keep looking at a 230

        Tubing is a big part of our watersports now, then wakeboarding and skiing. None of us have ever surfed, but it seems like the way that is going it most likely will be an option soon.

        Also we now have a "younger generation" (grandkids) that are starting to wakebaord and I'm sure they will be much more into wakeboarding and surfing, as my "older generation" was mainly brought up on skiing.

        This is the main reason why I'm thinking now is the time to "switch" to a more watersports oriented boat, but I still want something we can cruise on and enjoy.

        If the 230 is more of an all round type boat and the G series is more of an all out watersports, then maybe the 230 would better fit MY needs?

        Thanks

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        • SkiTower
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 2172

          • Clayton, NC


          #34
          the only one that can answer that question is you. Very good comments here to help, but only you can determine what's good enough. Come Spring and you should be able to find plenty of opportunities to go for rides


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          • Noahsark
            • Nov 2014
            • 78

            • Virginia


            #35
            SkiTower, I think your right on that, but I'd like to maybe make a deal sooner than Spring so That I could perhaps get a "better price" deal.

            Was really hoping NatiqueJeff would chime back in on this post as he has owned both type boats and probably could be a lot of help to me.

            Somehow at first I didn't see his entire response to my post and it look like he was just going to keep telling me not to surf behind an I/O, which I never intended to do and told him that. But in fact he had left quite a good bit of other info that I didn't see until after he said he was going to "butt out".

            That's was entirely my fault and I will learn to make sure I see everyone's "full" post, before I responed from now on!

            Thanks again for all of everyone's responses, opinions and facts ! It's greatly appreciateed! This is a great Forum!

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            • vision
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jul 2011
              • 518

              • NC

              • 2013 G23

              #36
              As SkiTower said, you will really need to ride/drive both. The Gs are better at all wake sports than a 230, but 230s are still quite good. The Gs have higher gunwales and will be dryer in the chop and feel "safer" with young kids. But the 230 is a 4 door sports car and the G a large SUV in terms if handling. The G will likely hold value slightly better.

              Both pull tubers well.

              Significantly more storage in a G.

              The advantage of the 230 will be handling and lower cost.

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              • ffmedic74
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jul 2003
                • 835

                • Lexington, KY


                #37
                We have a 2013 230 and the handling of the 230 seems much better to me vs the G23. The G23 feels like a big tank plow. Just my opinion.

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                • Laptom
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 876

                  • Eindhoven, Netherlands


                  #38
                  And the surf wake on a 230 is pretty darn perfect!
                  230 with ZR6 running on propane

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                  • ffmedic74
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 835

                    • Lexington, KY


                    #39
                    While the G boats really outsell the 230, many still say that the 230 has the superior wake.

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                    • ironj32
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • May 2011
                      • 601

                      • Lake Sarah (Independence), MN

                      • 2018 SAN G23 XR550

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ffmedic74 View Post
                      While the G boats really outsell the 230, many still say that the 230 has the superior wake.
                      for slalom skiing?

                      while i agree that many feel the 230 has a superior wakeboard wake to nearly every other boat on the market (myself included), i have never heard/read anyone stating that a 230 wake is superior to a G23. albeit, a "good wake" is all in the eyes of the beholder.
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                      • vision
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 518

                        • NC

                        • 2013 G23

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ironj32 View Post
                        for slalom skiing?

                        while i agree that many feel the 230 has a superior wakeboard wake to nearly every other boat on the market (myself included), i have never heard/read anyone stating that a 230 wake is superior to a G23. albeit, a "good wake" is all in the eyes of the beholder.

                        Have to agree. The 230 is an excellent wakeboard wake when sunken and you are running at 25 mph. The G has the capability of a larger wake and at a much slower speed.

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                        • ddipert
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 116

                          • Mebane NC

                          • 2010 SANTE 230

                          #42
                          I come from a performance boating back ground. We have 2 small children (2 & 4 years old). My 4 year old hated my fast boats, they would bounce to much and were to noise. When he was 3 we surfed behind a friends 210, he loved it. I decided that we would sell the old boat and buy more of a family boat. We ended up with a 230, bought it early 2014. My boys love it, my 2 year old now surfs with me. We plan on having him on a wake board next summer.
                          We get some rough water here and there, while not as good as in a I/O it still handles light to medium chop well. I have no regrets. I did check out a G which is a relay nice boat. If you sit a G23 and a 230 side by side the G is huge, deeper gunnel just seems like a much larger boat than the 230. I'm not sure I'd agree that the G would handle chop better the bow is a shovel nosed and a shallow V, where the 230 is a deeper V more traditional hull in the bow area (would look more like a I/O from the bow).

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                          • Noahsark
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 78

                            • Virginia


                            #43
                            Thanks for the info!! It's definetely going to make my decision pretty tuff ! How loud is the motor noise on your 230?

                            I've noticed the G series have the "surf pipe" on them which directs all of the exhaust under the water and makes them quieter.

                            Wonder if that pipe can be added to a 230?

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                            • BoardSkier
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 252

                              • Lake Anna, Virginia

                              • Air Nautique 226

                              #44
                              It's called Fresh Air Exhaust. Yes it can be added. Part if about $400. You can install yourself, or pay about an hour labor. Your boat will be quieter than thru hull and less fumes when idling.
                              2005 Air Nautique 226
                              Supra Comp (prior)

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                              • Noahsark
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 78

                                • Virginia


                                #45
                                Thanks BoardSkier, that's good to know!! Appreciate all of the info as this is a Great Forum!!

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