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[AbunDiga909]

The previous engines had an actual throttle cable that was used to accelerate. On the new engines, you will still see a cable but they are using electronic sensors to accelerate and decelerate. Hope that helps a little bit.

Thanks, that gives a better idea. Good thing this won't delay acceleration b/c it being wireless, which I've heard, that'd also be what I'd expect. So whats the advantage?

[DRAGON88]

Basically to extremely oversimplify things:

Fly by wire- digital throttle cable (sensor in the throttle handle sends a signal to the servo on the throttle body.)

Old system- A physical mechanical linkage between the throttle lever and the the throttle body.

[AbunDiga909]

Alright, thanks for clarifying. I assume the advantage is to go digital and lose as many hard wires as possible to lower the possiblity of physical things breaking and going wrong...

[patoloco]

I also don't understand the advantage to the driver? I can't believe its more responsive than an actual cable that is physically connected directly to the engine?

Does anyone know the purpose? Also seems it could be more dangerous if some of the electronics get screwed up.

[AWhite70]

Throttle by wire is a proven technology. It's been used in cars since the mid to late 90's. First car I remember getting it is the '97 Corvette. Now many vehicles get it. I have it in my '03 Silverado and can't tell the difference between it and a cable other than pedal feel.

Throttle by wire is actually a pretty big change in engine control. Throttle position changes from an input from the driver to an output from the engine computer. It allows for faster response and better control of fuel/air mixture. I've worked with these actuators before and trust me they can move extremely fast.

One additional benefit is that you automatically get most of a Perfect Pass system. You just have to add the guage/control and the control box. The actuator is already there.

[882001]

why? any advantage? all the boats i drive nautiques, supras, mastercraft and bu. and have never had any trouble. and if it did mess up, i could fix it.

[skinautique]

why? any advantage? all the boats i drive nautiques, supras, mastercraft and bu. and have never had any trouble. and if it did mess up, i could fix it.

Thank your buddies at MasterCraft for pushing this to the industry!

[awake4air]

So does this mean the throttle by wire is integrated with the perfect pass now? And if so, what exactly does that mean? It has always bugged my on my 02' Super Air that I have the boat gauge telling me I'm going one speed, and the perfect pass gauge telling me something else. If the boat comes with the perfect pass, they should figure out a way to synch the two gauges. Or maybe they have already done this already and I just haven't heard about it. I know Malibu has figured this one out becuse they use the paddle wheel only. Seems to me when they were thinking of using throttle by wire conceptually, this would have come up.

[AbunDiga909]

ski, do you know when MC starting using this? My friend has an '00 205V (old xstar) and doesn't really feel that sluggish.

Does the new PP we saw on the 220 have to do w/ the new throttle by wire, or is that just something totally different...

awake4air, I think the reason the PP and CC speedos read something different is just b/c PP uses its own paddlewheel and CC still goes w/ the old school... thing... But on my boat the PP and CC reads almost identical speeds. For some reason the CC speedo on our new boat has the same technology as the CC speedo on the '82 2001 and we've yet to have any problems w/ it reading accurately. It hasn't gotten clogged or anything.

[skinautique]

You can calibrate the speedo to match on the gauge and the cruise. MC started the throttle by wire in 2005. In 2006, CC has gone to all paddle wheel on all models and packages. The perfect pass is in the same box as the faria controls so they aren't two seperate units. If a 2006 CC doesn't have cruise in the dash, a person only needs to buy a gauge and plug it in. Everything else is in place already.

The new screen on PP is because of PP changing their layout and settings, etc. This has nothing to do with throttle by wire.

[awake4air]

So there are no more pickups for speedometer?

[skinautique]

So there are no more pickups for speedometer?

Exactly

[surroundsound64]

Throttle by wire is a proven technology. It's been used in cars since the mid to late 90's. First car I remember getting it is the '97 Corvette. Now many vehicles get it. I have it in my '03 Silverado and can't tell the difference between it and a cable other than pedal feel.

Throttle by wire is actually a pretty big change in engine control. Throttle position changes from an input from the driver to an output from the engine computer. It allows for faster response and better control of fuel/air mixture. I've worked with these actuators before and trust me they can move extremely fast.

One additional benefit is that you automatically get most of a Perfect Pass system. You just have to add the guage/control and the control box. The actuator is already there.

TBW evolved from the fly by wire used in fighters for close to 2 decades. But ya, like you said, most new vehicles have it now. It was only a matter time before boats got it.

[patoloco]

I guess I don't see it has a huge leap in advantage given the technology...

So now give me what I really want...tight power steering...I want the top of the wheel to move only between 9 and 3 o'clock...1:1 movement with the rudder...and be able to do it with just enough pressure to hold a steady line.

[skinautique]

I guess I don't see it has a huge leap in advantage given the technology...

So now give me what I really want...tight power steering...I want the top of the wheel to move only between 9 and 3 o'clock...1:1 movement with the rudder...and be able to do it with just enough pressure to hold a steady line.

That is what the trim tab on your rudder is for!!!