220 on water demo

[SilverSpraySports]

Alright everyone. This morning I drove and rode behind the 220. The wake is nice and firm with a solid kick on the top of the lip. We rode from 75-85 feet of line. The tunnel/gate is wider on this boat and very very effective. You can feel the bow move up and down and see a MAJOR change in the shape of the wake. We had the 950 stock ballast and then we went over 2400 lbs. The wake is awesome with 950 and wasn't too cool when we got over the 2000 mark. I would recommend staying close to the factory weight on this boat. The boat drives very well with the same low bow rise that the rest of the nautiques have. The moveable back seat is really cool and easy to move around. The storage on this boat is endless. The bow is just like the 211 but deeper and the cockpit area is the same as the 211. There are no more helm controls and the tanks fill and empty really fast.

Not sure what else you guys want to hear but I figured I would give you some more details now that I have been out on it.

-Doug

[AbunDiga909]

RE: 220 on water demo

What was the acceleration like and w/ which engine? I assume slower than other Nautiques, but relatively fast for its size??

[NautiqueJeff]

RE: 220 on water demo

I know that boat had a ZR-6 in it, so I bet it had plenty of power.

[AbunDiga909]

RE: 220 on water demo

I wouldn't get that boat w/o the ZR6. It must be the heaviest boat CC makes with all that extra stuff they put into it. Any news on when we can get a look at the specs?

[bbc3]

RE: 220 on water demo

I'm also interested to know which engine was in the boat you tested. With the stock ballast, how many people were in the boat? When you added weight, where did you add it? On top of the wedge tanks? Under the port/starboard stern seats? in the ski locker? Almost every boat has to be weighted differently...it seems odd (if placed correctly) that the wake wouldn't get bigger and better around the 2000# mark. Thanks....I'm excited to ride behind this bad boy.

[surroundsound64]

I'd still like to see some wake pics.

[AbunDiga909]

Also just thought of this... Second CC boat to legally hold 12, they brag about the most and best seating arrangement on the market. I think its great, I'd just like to see the boat with 12 people and their gear in it and then put that pic online and then re-brag about storage and seating space!

[sperbet]

why only the 900 lbs of stock ballast? I've yet to be in a boat where the stock ballast is enough. I can't imagine that a boat this big would have that great of a wake with a stock 900 lbs. That isn't even close to enough weight in the smaller 210. What was the shape like? 210 or 226? Any pics?

[cmb]

That is really surprising on the ballast. I would hope that it responds well to lots of weight. I do not believe that a boat of this size will have a good big wake with 1000 Lbs in it.

[Mikeski]

I don't know what level of wakeboarder Sperbet is but I tend to disagree with his general statement.

Using his logic I guess the B52 would produce a better wake than the 210?

The shape of the wake is just as important as the size, in my buddies 210s I prefer a little more weight up front to make it a little rampier, in my 211 I prefer a little more weight in back. In the first couple of rides behind my 211 I kept adding weight in back with the stock ballast full. After a little experimentation I found that if I ran the boat a little slower (23.5 instead of 24.5) and ran the front tank at 1/2-3/4 full I could achieve nearly the same wake as I did with stock tanks full and extra ballast in back.

Now keep in mind I am not some pro boarder running 85' or rope at 28mph for huge air photo shoots, I am just a novice throwing a few grabs and spins, but still getting decent height carried out into the flats. I think my needs are in line with the majority of the boat buyers.

[sperbet]

just a general staement, B52 aside. I am by no means that great of a rider either, but the more weight I throw in my SS and my buddies SAN the better it is. I know the extra weight is not by any means a must but his statement that the 220 doesn't need more then the 950 lbs, I would think is way off. 950 lbs is no where near enough in a 210 so I can't imagine that it is in a 220. The 210 has a nice wake with stock ballast, but it is MUCH better with more weight. Just my .02

[SilverSpraySports]

We had 6 people in the boat. We added weight in each of the rear corners (400 lbs apiece) and another fat sac in the middle walkway. The wake has a very nice lip at the top of it and I would say it is closer to the 210 the way we rode it but you can watch the hydrogate dramatically change the top lip on this boat. The 210 gets worse when you get to a certain amount of weight and I think this is what we were seeing with this boat. We only had a couple of hours on the boat because it had to be sent to Oregon.

-Doug

[bbc3]

Interesting....I like hearing the feedback on the hydrogate and the comparison to the 210 wake. I've heard the 220 is a little more 226ish, but hey...I haven't ridden it yet. Mikeski is right on, each boat has its own dynamics that require specific weighting. I disagree with SSSports...if placed properly, the 210 can handle MONSTER loads making the wake absolutely HUGE (not saying this is better, but we've done it, and it was sick...beginner-intermediate riders might find it to be "worse" because it literally tosses people around and can be less forgiving). Stock ballast+6people in a 210 is plenty for big spins and technical inverts. I think this is one of those issues that after a couple people get their hands on this new boat, they can play with different weighting configs and compare notes.

[cmb]

I am actually glad to hear you say that you think the 210 gets worse as well. Mainly because I disagree. Now, if you just put weight in the boat and don't take a little time to figure out where you should put weight in... then I think it can get ugly. But, I have seen the light with well placed weight in a 210. 3k Lbs is where it's at.

Hopefully we get one here in about two weeks for a day. We will be experimenting... but a day will not be enough time to get a yeah that is perfect I am sure.

[Harry_Potter]

IMO the 210 Super Air loves the weight. We weight our boats for comps and 2000lb plus is a must. If placed correctly the 210 can handle as much weight as you can throw at it and the wake just gets bigger and better. We use the Acme part no 856 Prop though which is a must to get the boat out of the hole. Totally agree with bbc3's comments regarding riders who get tossed around when beginners or just not used to the wake. Also agree that stock ballast + 6 people will throw a pretty **** good wake for most. But the current trend whether it be right or wrong is to add loadsa weight for the big wake.

Just hope that the new 220 wake is as good as the 210, if that's the case then the storage and seating arrangements will undoubtedly push people this way.

Where are the wake pics !!!!