build quality on my new 210

[speck]

most of the stuff is fitting and finishing work done sloppily. the rubrail i have not sighted down other 210's to see if it is in them too. the fault is not the rubrails, it is the molds. it is the deck and the hull that both do this, the rubrail just follows the curve. the port side does not do this, that is why it seems odd. how many 210 molds are at the factory? does anybody else have this on their boat?

[DRAGON88]

Interesting... My bow vinyl looks the same. I always assumed it was part of the design albeit a awkward design. I'm looking but not finding any good pictures of the bow... I also have the same thing with my steering wheel. I just always assumed it was the norm, the one thing that has always irked me was the drivers seat, there is an exposed staple, and I always thought that was kind of lacking on the finish side... But I wasn't really sure if it would be worth pestering the dealership about...

I'll be watchin' this thread.

[Rhode]

Speck,

I will stop completely with the metaphors and other rhetorical tropes on this thread so that you get important feedback on your boat.

As probably the least familar person on this board about how Nautiques are actually put together, I noticed in the picture of the bow cushion that Nautique Jeff reposted that there appears to be a greater gap between the stainless steel handle and the cusion on the port side than on the starboard. The logic that the non-removable, tri-color cusion was simply screwed in crooked is supported by looking at the relative thickness of the lowest gray vinyl stripe, which is thickest on the starboard side where the handle gap is thinnest. I'm guessing that the problem with the steering wheel was that the dash pod was similarly not lined-up very good when screwed into place (affixed too far to the starboard side).

Using an '05 Flight Clip bracket as a spacer is going to look horrible, IMO, on the very stylized '06 FCT billet. On the functional side, I worry that such long, relatively thin, non-shafted bolts and little lock nuts will give a little or simply slide up and down the billet as you bounce along your local water.

Favor: Would you please remove the drain plug and try to push the oil drain hole through it. The brass fitting on my hose is too big, but only by a little bit.

Rhode

[surroundsound64]

WAY too sloppy to be paying $60,000, give or take $10,000. hehe. Definately do not settle for that unless CC has a REALLY good reason. Except for the flight clips... there's no excuse for that! hehe.

[redelf75]

Here's my bow; a funky design in itself. But I thought it was off just enough to remind me that my boat is hand made. What bothers me more, is that my pylon doesn't line up with the little curve in my engine box (216) - sorry, no pic.

[Hollywood]

It's not a good idea to begin with from a design standpoint to try to make things symmetrical. The more swirls the less you have to worry about. It's **** near impossible.

[cat1168]

Speck,
This is my 3rd Nautiqe, I have skied and drove many other boats and the only boat I will own is a Nautique.
My 05' ski has some of the same issues. The carpet was not cut correctly and I can see the fiberglass. I had a problem with the in boat ski racks. My 68" ski would not fit into the rack, and some other issues I am still dealing with.
It is frustrating, I know but the boat is well worth it. The only thing I can tell you is keep on the dealer and if they will not help contact CC.

[speck]

hi guys, thanks for the input. my dealer is back tomorrow and i will post the results. everything on the boat can be fixed, its only vinyl after all, the steering wheel i will fix myself with a die grinder and a hour of time. the thing that can't be fixed is the wow in the rear quarter. please take a look at my pic and see if your 210's do this. this is something that cannot be fixed and will be a major issue. if the mold is "straight" and mine is arched then i want to know why. it is like buying a new car with a bent frame that has never been in and accident. please check this out and let me know.

cat1168 the biggest thing here is that cc is ranked "highest in customer satisfaction with ski and wakeboard boat three years in a row." For "over 80 years cc has dedicated itself to building boats of unsurpassed quality and performance." (terry McNew)

are we gullible here? were we suckered in? we paid the most, we expect the best. cc has pumped itself as the absolute best, and we believed it for a moment. what you and i have is a letdown. we were built up, and now we are let down. there is no excuse for sloppy workmanship

[speck]

radmaster, how did you accept that from the dealer?

[cat1168]

Yes you are right, the boat should have no problem. You do expect Quality with the price we paid.
I was a little dissapointed in the fine details (my 00 ski was perfect) but the wake and feel of the boat is perfect.
I have been on other ski boats and all felt cheap, they did not handle choppy water well.
But the big question is whether or not CC and the dealer will make you happy. I am still waiting to see.

[surroundsound64]

Maybe I'm missing something, but even though the boats are hand made, shouldn't the components on them be symetrical? I mean, how hard is it to use a tape measure?

Again, I may be missing something.

[speck]

i have a feeling the reason that they don't offer the stainless steel rubrail like on the 211 and 226 is because the 210 are old molds and are not perfect enough to accept the trim

[Laptom]

Don't they use a mold for only 50 boats or so and then have to use a new mold?

It's not that hard to get everything fully symetrical. Expecially when they are making a boat for more then 10years!

[SprintCar39]

It is possible to get everything symetrical if fixtures are used to locate the holes. When each hole is drilled by hand and located visually you will have these kinds of problems. CC Dealers have been dealing with this for years with CC and most of these issues are caught by the dealers and adjusted. This adds alot of work for the dealers to go back and make the boats right. The dealers deserve the JD Power award not CC.

[ScarletArrow]

The dealers deserve the JD Power award not CC.

Does this explain why your dealership doesn't sell CC anymore?