build quality on my new 210

[DRAGON88]

I may be wrong but when they arrive at places like West Coast Correct Craft thats before they go to the dealerships . Thats where they are "completely" assembled and maybe CC is expecting them to correct all there errors? I was not happy with my dealer after the first service so I took it to WCCC but now were moving to Salem Oregon and we hope the dealer in Portland is good??

IMO the Portland dealership sucks. They treated us like crap when we were buying a new boat, I can only immagine how their service would be to a non-original purchaser...

[ScarletArrow]

MidOhio...I am curious which boat you believe is the best...

MidOhio has tied their wagon to MC.

They give credit to CC as being an industry standard, and say, "they're a good boat, you can't go wrong buying a CC".

But they save their ringing endorsements for superior design, quality, and customer service for MC.

[SprintCar39]

skinautique - Yes you are correct. I owned a 196 Ski Nautique the whole time. Two reasons: The lake I live on had a 19' length limit. (we got away with 19-6). And I feel the 196 is the best closed bow ski boat. I got the length limit increased to 20-6" so that I could have an open bow boat and then used the Ski 206 to help promote it. Now that Mastercraft has the X-2 (a 20 V-drive) I will use that. I would have used it even if I was still a CC dealer because my kids and friends are into wakeboarding, surfing and wakeskates now.

[jefe]

Unfortunately, I didn't take the pic like the one you have. I no longer own the boat, and I am no longer a promotional driver for Nautique. At first I just thought it was an optical Illusion, but now that I see other people that have it, It looks almost identical to what you have. I can tell you I used the boat for 75 good hours and no problems with handling or problems with the boat no feeling solid. No one else noticed it either.

While we are trying to fix CC's QC for them. How about some engineering issues? Like the carpeted bow in the 210 with the Drain (Who's bright idea was it to put carpet up there?) Talk about Mold city! Every time I came back from a day out on the water, I would have to pull the bow cushion to let it dry out.

Anybody else have problems with water coming in from under the rubrail on the port side, during a hard turn? It was almost like the deck and the hull were not completely put together? Most embarssing thing in the world when you have people sitting in the boat while your driving an INT tournament and asking you about it.

Back to QC, I was actually glad they forgot to put a back stop on the rear storage of my 05 210 on the port side, so I can fit my wife's board in it, but they remembered to do the starboard? Maybe the warehouse did me a favor on that one?

I am not a person who says all I will buy is a CC, but I am a person who can look someone in the eye and say, you can buy a CC from this dealer, and you will be pleased with the service and boat.

[jon4pres]

MidOhio, Does Mastercraft and Malibu send you boats that you have to finish the same way that CC did?
I know nothing about this but why wouldnt CC, or anyother boat company, finish the boat correctly in their factory. All comanies have bad dealers so I would think they would want the quality to be top notch out of the factory and not have to worry about less than perfect dealers finding and fixing mistakes.
For the price of these boats it is absolutly insane to have mistakes.

[ag4ever]

Jon, some of the items are shipped loose for space reasons. You can fit more oats on one trailer for shipping when the tower and windshield are not mounted. Some of the other items, such as the upholstry, steering wheel, carpeting and other items are just bad workmanship by CC.

On my '02 super air, the drain tube under the belly tank was foamed shut, so the drain in the bow would not function. The dealer had to pull the tank, and drill out the foam to clear the tube. Also the factory got over zeleous on the carpet glue in the bow, and stained the carpet with excess glue.

There are other items, and since my carpet is falling off the walls I am wondering what this best boat thing is all about.

The only other thing I can say is that the structure of the boat is much better than most of the others I have seen. Just the detailing is a little off.

[jon4pres]

ag4ever, I can understand not mounting the windshield and tower but those dont even seem to be the main concerns of this topic. How many Corvette's (similar price) do you think GM lets go out with mistakes? I guarantee it is not very many and the ones that do get fixed by the factory.

I just see it unfair to the dealers to have to deal with these problems. They sell and service boats not build them.

[Miljack]

Jon,
Not getting at you, but you MUST be JOKING! The Corvette or ANY GM vehicle would not be a good example to use in relation to a CC. GM has improved the Vettes, but they build WAY more of these than CC does anything. Think about it, CC only builds 1800-1900 boats/year, that means about 7-8 boats/day leaving the factory, HOW could they not catch these details?? Maybe they are still ironing out the production details on their new 220?? Hmmm?
The build details are the reason that most people have held the CC's in such high esteem, in addition to the excellent structural integregity of these boats. For any of these boats to leave the factory with the sloppy finish as demonstrated on this '06 210 is VERY poor QC.

just my $0.02

thanks,
Jack

[jon4pres]

Jon,
Not getting at you, but you MUST be JOKING! The Corvette or ANY GM vehicle would not be a good example to use in relation to a CC. GM has improved the Vettes, but they build WAY more of these than CC does anything. Think about it, CC only builds 1800-1900 boats/year, that means about 7-8 boats/day leaving the factory, HOW could they not catch these details?? Maybe they are still ironing out the production details on their new 220?? Hmmm?
The build details are the reason that most people have held the CC's in such high esteem, in addition to the excellent structural integregity of these boats. For any of these boats to leave the factory with the sloppy finish as demonstrated on this '06 210 is VERY poor QC.

just my $0.02

thanks,
Jack

I am not joking but I think it is a joke that CC puts boat out the factory door with mistakes. I also think it is a joke that they expect the dealers to fix all of these problems when it would be much easier for them to do it right the first time. I also think it is a joke that peopel are so loyal to a brand that they will overlook mistakes to defend that company.

I have no idea what how the production details on the 220 have anything to do with them not being able to put vynal on a 210 correctly.

So your excuse for CC is that they produce fewer boats than GM produces cars?? That seems backwards to me. You would think with the lower production numbers they would pay more attention to detail.

The truth is I love Nautique boats and think they are good boats but not to the point that I am going to stand up for their mistakes. If I had a SAN and another similar boat from comany x,y,or z and they were the similar in price and the San had a wavy rubrail, misplaced steering wheel, and the vynal was not installed correctly I would look at the next boat.

[Hollywood]

If I had a SAN and another similar boat from comany x,y,or z and they were the similar in price and the San had a wavy rubrail, misplaced steering wheel, and the vynal was not installed correctly I would look at the next boat.

Yeah well that's just one boat out of how many? You might be surprised to find the same or similar mistakes on X,Y, or Z. Anything hand-made is going to have symmetrical issues. This example is pretty bad however, that bow is obviously crooked and I certainly wouldn't be proud of my work if I put together that boat. QC needs to tighten up, you see this type of worker mentality in many fields, slopping something together so that he/she can go home early.

[efox]

First off, sure there are more vettes made per day, but they are made on an assembly line with very strict tolerance. Any "problems" will most definately be sorted out by your dealer and not Bowling Green. CC on the other hand is mostly hand made, so variances are more likely. This example though is clearly one that slipped through the cracks. Surely the dealer will help with this. Not that I am in the market right now, but this makes me think 2x about another CC boat.

[jon4pres]

I understand that mistakes happen and slip through the cracks but there have been several people on this topic that have complained about the quality issues their boats. I dont think the boats being hand made is an excuse if they are hand made that means that there is always someone touching and working on the boat. You would think that one of those people would notice that there was something wrong. Correct Craft boats are expensive and you should get a premium product for the premium price they charge.

[Laptom]

I find it strange that hand-made isn't perfect. I expect an hand-made boat/car/furniture much, much better then an equal fabric-made boat/car/funiture... Expecially in details... Robots cannot see flaws in details. People can!

[Miljack]

Jon,
I wasn't making excuses for CC, I was just giving you a hard time in using a Corvette as shining example of production technigues! 8-)
I do agree with Laptom that these boats are going out the door at the rate of <10 a day, there should not be ANY excuse for these types of sloppy mistakes. This rate of production does put CC in the realm of handbuilt exotic cars and such, so the price premium commanded for the CC should put them at the top of the heap in build quality.

YMMV

Jack

[DRAGON88]

Back to QC, I was actually glad they forgot to put a back stop on the rear storage of my 05 210 on the port side, so I can fit my wife's board in it, but they remembered to do the starboard? Maybe the warehouse did me a favor on that one?

My '05 has this feature as well... I guess they don't put the backstops on the Port side...