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  • surroundsound64
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 2147

    • Longview, TX

    • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

    #76
    Originally posted by jon4pres
    I still think that QC should be better on a handmade item because it is being inspected all of the time. I would think that if thy guy who installed the pylon wrong didnt notice than the guy installing the sundeck would notice it was off. If he didnt notice than the person installing the back of the back seat would notice. If he didnt notice the people who do the final inspection would notice.
    Are there any current inboard or Vdrive manufacturers that mass produce their boats? My guess is that they are all hand made but it is just a guess.

    You know I would expect installation problems like this from a price point boat like Moomba. But why would you pay twice as much for a Nautique if you are not getting better quality.
    I just wanna know why is apparently so hard for CC to use a tape measure?
    Seriously, a 6 yr old could effectively use a tape measure. So why can't some guy who's making 6 digits a year, or at least close to it!
    2018 SAN 230
    1981 Ski Nautique
    Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
    Sold - 2000 SAN

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    • nautique95
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2005
      • 420

      • Michigan

      • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

      #77
      Shifting gears a bit.............

      I on my 4th Nautique in a decade. I believe in the product, I believe in the dealer, and I believe in the manufacturer just like a majority of the planetnautique members.

      Concerns with QC come up. Run it through the chain of command and the concerns will be addressed. Give the wheels at CC a chance to get turning. My goodness.

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      • SprintCar39
        • Jul 2003
        • 224

        • Willard


        #78
        nautique95 ....

        This is nothing new....we have been going with the chain of command as you suggest and it is not getting addressed and some of the dealers are tired of it. We make suggestions and no one listens. I was told once by a CC rep that "I was just a dot in the big picture you really dont think they will listen to you" HMMMMMMMMMMM

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        • MinnesotaNautique
          • Jan 2004
          • 207



          #79
          Ya'll a bunch of Whiners...!



          P.S. That is not directed at you Midohio

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          • AbunDiga909
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 2470

            • St. Louis, MO


            #80
            Originally posted by MinnesotaNautique
            Ya'll a bunch of Whiners...!
            uh oh... i hope you're joking... :|
            [color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]

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            • MinnesotaNautique
              • Jan 2004
              • 207



              #81
              Abun,
              What if I'm not

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              • AbunDiga909
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 2470

                • St. Louis, MO


                #82
                Originally posted by MinnesotaNautique
                Abun,
                What if I'm not
                if you're not... I dunno, I guess I'll have to wait a day to respond to cool my jets from my other rant, can only have 1 rant per day... ;-)
                [color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]

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                • MinnesotaNautique
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 207



                  #83
                  Guess I'll wait until tomorrow to hear your delicious words of wisdom...

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                  • AbunDiga909
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2470

                    • St. Louis, MO


                    #84
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaNautique
                    Guess I'll wait until tomorrow to hear your delicious words of wisdom...
                    lol, i think i'm going to pass on that
                    [color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]

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                    • Rhode
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 220



                      #85
                      I'm standing down this evening to reflect on all the kernals of wisdom and humor ("ducks", he said) in Abundiga's earlier rant on the skater-troll thread. Hopefully, no one will mind if I re-post his words here; I think they are quite on point to this ongoing discussion. Diga's sentiment and insight might even prompt me to say a nice thing or twenty about CC.

                      Rhode

                      *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***

                      I like to think of my boat as being "the best" on the lake, but truth is, "best" is all subjective. I know that my family's boat was made by hand, and to me, thats something special. I guess I'm a sentimental guy, but one of the reasons for loving the 216 is that it has the classic styles of the older and more famous Nautiques. So, it being made by hand, and having those slight imperfections, like the older Nautiques, makes it that much more special to me. I DO NOT want a boat to be perfect if it is going to be 100% identical with every other 216 out there! If the wheel is not centered, that sucks, but it will be fixed immediately under warantee. If the vynal isn't straight, and you don't like it like that, have it fixed under warantee. But if it were in my hands, I'd say, "nice, this slight imperfection makes my boat different from everyone else's, now its that much more special."

                      Another way of my thinking that makes me love Correct Craft and despise the competition, is their way of thinking. When I buy a boat, I look at more than what floats on the water. To me, you're not just supporting your dealer, (which is important), but you are choosing to support a specific company. Even if I liked an X-9 better than my boat, (which I assure you will never happen), I would still buy a CC b/c I would much rather support my local CC dealer over my local MC dealer, and CC as a company, over MC as a company. I see in CC's new boats a lot of thought! I see that they have every little nit-picky thing that makes the boat more functional! The simple placement of the throttle and seat, and seat backrest position, shows me that CC has thought much more practically of ergonomics compared to the competition. I sit in a CC seat and feel comfortable, safe, and ready to drive a best on the water at whatever speed in whatever conditions, under control and to the best of my ability. Why does a slalom boat need to have a 96" beam? To take your gansta bros out on your pimp-*** slalom machine? heck no. Why does your bow need to raise when going on plane to what feels like a 45 degree angle? To warn the ducks that the biggest piece of crap is coming down the lake? No. Because the people designing the hull for that bow-raising machine were either stoned out of their minds or the dumbest muther-***** from Tennessee.

                      After getting TMCOwners.com E Newsletter update, I was informed about MC's new X-15. My first reaction: "Oh God, not another one... Where the ***** does this fit in? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOAT?" I have no shame in going to the middle of the MC booth at the NYC show and blaintly ask, "WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE USE OF THIS X-15 BOAT IS?" I sit in a MasterCraft driver's seat and have to make 1 of three choises on how to navigate that yacht... 1.) Sit comfortably in the chair, resulting in not being albe to reach the wheel or throttle safely. Nor being able to see safely over the windshield. 2.) Sit uncomfortably in the chair, like sitting on a stool b/c I cannot use the backrest b/c it is too far back, resulting in back annoyance (is that a word?) so when I'm 60 and in my own boat I can no longer make use of it due to my back problems. or 3.) Stand up in front of the chair, so I can safely see over the windshield, but at the same time, feeling pain throughout my body over every bump, not have safe control of the wheel or throttle, and basically feel out of place...

                      Ok, so this shows me here that MC does not know how to make a drivers console. Those are just a couple examples of why I buy a CC, I believe not only does CC make the best quality boats, (which like I said is subjective), but I believe that the dudes down in Orlando think much more practically about how to make a SMART BOAT, than any other dudes in CA, TN, or Austrailia...

                      Enjoy Responsibly...

                      EndRant

                      ~Austin

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                      • speck
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 236



                        #86
                        minnesota, you got a problem?

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                        • AbunDiga909
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2470

                          • St. Louis, MO


                          #87
                          Uh oh, I feel Officer Carroll & Officer Tingley may be re-vising their unwanted duty pretty soon at this rate... Yellow_Flash_Colorz:
                          [color=blue][size=2][b]I Nautique, therefore I am.[/b][/size][/color]

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                          • skinautique
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1749

                            • Colorado


                            #88
                            Originally posted by surroundsound64
                            Originally posted by jon4pres
                            I still think that QC should be better on a handmade item because it is being inspected all of the time. I would think that if thy guy who installed the pylon wrong didnt notice than the guy installing the sundeck would notice it was off. If he didnt notice than the person installing the back of the back seat would notice. If he didnt notice the people who do the final inspection would notice.
                            Are there any current inboard or Vdrive manufacturers that mass produce their boats? My guess is that they are all hand made but it is just a guess.

                            You know I would expect installation problems like this from a price point boat like Moomba. But why would you pay twice as much for a Nautique if you are not getting better quality.
                            I just wanna know why is apparently so hard for CC to use a tape measure?
                            Seriously, a 6 yr old could effectively use a tape measure. So why can't some guy who's making 6 digits a year, or at least close to it!
                            I will vouch for the guys on the factory line. If they are making a six digit figure, it probably looks like this: #####.## not ######.##

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                            • j2nh
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 628

                              • Spread Eagle Wisconsin


                              #89
                              I will not and cannot, based on personal experience, buy into the argument that because Nautiques are "hand made" this excuses sloppy or imprecise assembly at the factory. I have had the good fortune of owning 2 Porsche 911's, a 95 and an 01 that I purchased new. Essentially this model from Porsche is still hand made. In over 10 years of ownership and 70,000 miles I never had ONE warranty claim. The workmanship was impeccable. Seams on doors, fit and finish were second to none. If Porsche can engineer, design and build a $70K car with outstanding workmanship then I see no reason that CC cannot do the same with a $60K boat.
                              2018 200 Team H6
                              2009 196 Team ZR 409
                              2005 196 Limited ZR 375
                              2003 196 Limited Excalibur
                              1999 196 Masters Edition
                              1995 ProStar 190 LT1 (Bayliner)
                              1987 ProStar 190

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                              • nautique95
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 420

                                • Michigan

                                • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                                #90
                                Originally posted by MidOhioWatersports
                                nautique95 ....

                                This is nothing new....we have been going with the chain of command as you suggest and it is not getting addressed and some of the dealers are tired of it. We make suggestions and no one listens. I was told once by a CC rep that "I was just a dot in the big picture you really dont think they will listen to you" HMMMMMMMMMMM
                                Mid-Ohio. I'm referring the warranty chain of command in my reply. (Contact the dealer, they'll contact CC, get approval for repair, reimburse the dealer etc).

                                You're not suggesting that the person who started this thread is going to be denied warranty, are you? I'd be hard pressed to believe it.

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