CC quality

**SNMike** · 12-15-2005, 04:50 PM

RE: CC quality

HHMMMM, you sound just like a ...mmm what is that name.....oh yeah...TROLL!! PDT_046

**bkhallpass** · 12-15-2005, 05:00 PM

RE: CC quality

On this site, you have a bunch of folks who are fanatics about their boats, and nautiques
in general. We are a hyper-sensitive bunch, want our boats perfect and bitch a lot if they
are not. On the other hand, that's part of the fun. We keep coming back to this site, and
most of us have bought more than 1 nautique.

This is a niche industry. Only about 10,000 boats a year from all brands. Nautiques are
built better than most, if not all. If you buy a million dollar yacht, I guarantee it will not
be perfect either.

I can walk through any boat, any brand and find something that isn't right, something that
is engineered poorly, something that can be improved.

To me, it's important that the boat be "right" the day you bought it. But, it is a **** of a lot
more important what type of shape it will be in 10 years after you bought it. If you use
the boat 100+ hours per year, for its intended use - hardcore water sports, none will hold up
better than a Correct Craft.

If you are not a believer, that's ok. Buy the brand of boat that makes you happy. If you still
have an open mind, go drive a 10 year old nautique, 10 year old Bu, and 10 year old
MC and decide for yourself.

My $.02

BKH

**surroundsound64** · 12-15-2005, 05:14 PM

I'm w/ BKH.

If you buy another brand thinking it is of higher quality, you'll realize the mistake you made in a few yrs. Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

**SGY** · 12-15-2005, 05:34 PM

All we are saying on this site is if there are QC problems, CC better get them fixed. None of us are so naive to believe that a few complaints on this board are indicative of a QC problem. Remember, part of the purpose of this board is to voice complaints and problems. People are more vocal or louder in their complaints than in their praise. It's human nature--especially when its cold outside. And, because CC boats do cost more, we have higher expectations and are more prone to complain a little louder.

**AbunDiga909** · 12-15-2005, 05:37 PM

I agree w/ BKH, but I also have another reason for my loyalty for the brand...

I like to think of my boat as being "the best" on the lake, but truth is, "best" is all subjective. I know that my family's boat was made by hand, and to me, thats something special. I guess I'm a sentimental guy, but one of the reasons for loving the 216 is that it has the classic styles of the older and more famous Nautiques. So, it being made by hand, and having those slight imperfections, like the older Nautiques, makes it that much more special to me. I DO NOT want a boat to be perfect if it is going to be 100% identical with every other 216 out there! If the wheel is not centered, that sucks, but it will be fixed immediately under warantee. If the vynal isn't straight, and you don't like it like that, have it fixed under warantee. But if it were in my hands, I'd say, "nice, this slight imperfection makes my boat different from everyone else's, now its that much more special."

Another way of my thinking that makes me love Correct Craft and despise the competition, is their way of thinking. When I buy a boat, I look at more than what floats on the water. To me, you're not just supporting your dealer, (which is important), but you are choosing to support a specific company. Even if I liked an X-9 better than my boat, (which I assure you will never happen), I would still buy a CC b/c I would much rather support my local CC dealer over my local MC dealer, and CC as a company, over MC as a company. I see in CC's new boats a lot of thought! I see that they have every little nit-picky thing that makes the boat more functional! The simple placement of the throttle and seat, and seat backrest position, shows me that CC has thought much more practically of ergonomics compared to the competition. I sit in a CC seat and feel comfortable, safe, and ready to drive a best on the water at whatever speed in whatever conditions, under control and to the best of my ability. Why does a slalom boat need to have a 96" beam? To take your gansta bros out on your pimp-*** slalom machine? **** no. Why does your bow need to raise when going on plane to what feels like a 45 degree angle? To warn the ducks that the biggest piece of crap is coming down the lake? No. Because the people designing the hull for that bow-raising machine were either stoned out of their minds or the dumbest muther-****ers from Tennessee.

After getting TMCOwners.com E Newsletter update, I was informed about MC's new X-15. My first reaction: "Oh God, not another one... Where the **** does this fit in? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOAT?" I have no shame in going to the middle of the MC booth at the NYC show and blaintly ask, "WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE USE OF THIS X-15 BOAT IS?" I sit in a MasterCraft driver's seat and have to make 1 of three choises on how to navigate that yacht... 1.) Sit comfortably in the chair, resulting in not being albe to reach the wheel or throttle safely. Nor being able to see safely over the windshield. 2.) Sit uncomfortably in the chair, like sitting on a stool b/c I cannot use the backrest b/c it is too far back, resulting in back annoyance (is that a word?) so when I'm 60 and in my own boat I can no longer make use of it due to my back problems. or 3.) Stand up in front of the chair, so I can safely see over the windshield, but at the same time, feeling pain throughout my body over every bump, not have safe control of the wheel or throttle, and basically feel out of place...

Ok, so this shows me here that MC does not know how to make a drivers console. Those are just a couple examples of why I buy a CC, I believe not only does CC make the best quality boats, (which like I said is subjective), but I believe that the dudes down in Orlando think much more practically about how to make a SMART BOAT, than any other dudes in CA, TN, or Austrailia...

Enjoy Responsibly...

EndRant

~Austin

**Richard-Howell** · 12-15-2005, 05:39 PM

Guess I'll just keep on looking for the best boat out there.

Good luck in your search, in the meantime paddle hard!

**SNMike** · 12-15-2005, 05:51 PM

Re: CC quality

Originally posted by Skaterguy

Guess I'll just keep on looking for the best boat out there.

This is, IMVHO, a typical troll statement trying to hook you into a potential war of words. I belong to six other forums and have for many years. After a while you can can spot 'em in an instant. If I'm wrong, then my apologies, but I'm willing to bet I'm not. Regards!!! Mike

**OKWAKEBDR** · 12-15-2005, 06:14 PM

RE: Re: CC quality

All these posts seem right on-line as comments to "Skaterguy's post #1. (Post #1 on this site.) You're not going to find a perfect handmade boat just like you won't find a perfect handmade guitar or anything else. However, you simply must compare the product to the competition. In my opinion, CC wipes out the competition, and deserves the award. Not that MC or 'bu are not good boats, I just think CC is better. When I bought my first boat ('01 X-Star), I would have preferred to buy a CC, but I couldn't afford it. I have always thought CC was the best built boat out there. And I would not trade my 210's wake for about anything...(well, maybe a 220 if it proves itself to me).

Great question regarding the X-15 Abun...looks very similar to the X-1, X-10, and X-30; just a little different in size. I thought the new X-2 was a great idea...not that I would ever give up my CC for MC. It was a good boat and MC is a good brand, but it really does not compare in quality to my '05 210 TE. Plus, the CC dealership is much better to deal with.

**OldFart** · 12-15-2005, 08:20 PM

RE: Re: CC quality

You've restored my faith in humanity!

**AbunDiga909** · 12-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Re: RE: Re: CC quality

Originally posted by OldFart

You've restored my faith in humanity!

OldFart-The most mysterious member of them all--has a wealth of knowledge of my local area--and always ready to supply a comment capable of breaking up the most intense feeling of serious with a bit of humourous words... 8-)

**OldFart** · 12-15-2005, 08:40 PM

RE: Re: RE: Re: CC quality

"Only the SHADOW knows" How's Candlewood's new facility coming? Where is THEIR webcam? Adios 4 another few days. EVERYONE HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A SAFE NEW YEAR!!!

**AbunDiga909** · 12-15-2005, 08:49 PM

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: CC quality

Originally posted by OldFart

"Only the SHADOW knows" How's Candlewood's new facility coming? Where is THEIR webcam? Adios 4 another few days. EVERYONE HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS & A SAFE NEW YEAR!!!

Dude, you are freakin' the **** out of me...

Who are you!?!?

**CHassmann** · 12-15-2005, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by SGY

All we are saying on this site is if there are QC problems, CC better get them fixed. None of us are so naive to believe that a few complaints on this board are indicative of a QC problem. Remember, part of the purpose of this board is to voice complaints and problems. People are more vocal or louder in their complaints than in their praise. It's human nature--especially when its cold outside. And, because CC boats do cost more, we have higher expectations and are more prone to complain a little louder.

Well, actually, CC does have a quality problem. Just take a look at some of MidOhioWatersports posts and digest them. They were on the front lines for 4 years seeing every mistake the factory makes. Yes, they are the best built boats, but CC needs to pay more attention to details like getting things straight, lined up, tight, etc. For example, it's not that hard to make templates that show you where to drill holes the same place on each boat. That being said, even though I won't be in the market for a new boat for a long tim, I would still buy a CC if I was buying one today. The margin on the CC boats isn't enough for the dealers to spend their time fixing problems that shouldn't be on the boats coming out of the factory.

**skinautique** · 12-15-2005, 09:02 PM

Abundiga - It cracks me up that old fart is freaking you out. Don't worry, he is a just an old guy from off the street somewhere!!! (j/k oldfart - you are a good person)

Make sure that you guys see that MOWS stated that none of the lines that he carries come in great shape. I will say this, I have been handling a lot of new boats and they are gettting a lot better. CC is listening and working their hardest to make changes for the better. I am impressed with the quality that they build now in the old factory. I hope the new factory makes things even better

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