'05 216 vs Bu Sunsetter pre-2005 vs Bu Sunsetter 2005

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  • Edwin
    • Jul 2003
    • 219

    • St. Louis


    #16
    Originally posted by SGY
    What Jeff says may be true, but that doesn't diminish the quality or usefulness of the 216.
    true, but it will remain to be seen if the 'legendary' CC resale value is realized. in most cases, items that are discontinued due to low demand don't hold their value to the same level of in-demand items.

    89SN2001 - will be interesting to get read your feedback once you test drive the 02 SLXi this weekend. the review I posted on the Malibu owners site was posted here as well back in Oct 03. The 216 is a very nice boat but there are a couple areas that the pre05 SLXi is a better boat for you. The pre05 SLXi is a better slalom boat than the 216...drop the Wedge and it's a decent intermediate boarding boat. For the size of the family you'll be bringing, the observers seat on the 216 is tiny. It's generous to say it is "3 cheeks wide" at the most. The SLXi seat is 31" wide.

    As I mentioned on the other site, I'd buy the 216 over the new SLXi. That said, for your use, the pre05 SLXi is the best fit of the 3.

    Good luck!

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    • Richard-Howell
      • Jan 2004
      • 200

      • New Hampshire


      #17
      For the size of the family you'll be bringing, the observers seat on the 216 is tiny. It's generous to say it is "3 cheeks wide" at the most.

      I wonder why they don't offer the tournement season extention like on the 206!

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      • Edwin
        • Jul 2003
        • 219

        • St. Louis


        #18
        you got me...as best I can tell, the standard 206 observer seat is bigger than the 216.

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        • SGY
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jul 2003
          • 990



          #19
          Yeah, I was scratching my head on the tiny observer seat as well. I wonder if one could retro fit one from a 206. Why wouldn't CC make that love seat extension available.

          Edwin, did you think the bow was that much bigger on the 216 than the 206. I know the trunk is bigger, which was what made you look at the 216 over the 206 in the first place.

          You may be right on resale . Time will tell. However, just the opposite was true with the pre 2005 SLXi's. They are in high demand. I can only assume the reason CC would stop 216 production is that its caught between the 206 and the 211. There's a nitch for the 206 which takes some or most of the market for the 216.

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          • Edwin
            • Jul 2003
            • 219

            • St. Louis


            #20
            After looking at the 206 at the boat show last night, the 216's bow is significantly larger than the 206's. I haven't seen the two side by side in some time but my first comment when looking at the 206 last night was how small the open bow looked. It's more roomy than the 197 but is noticeably smaller than my RLXi.

            I'm somewhat aware of the pre05 SLXi's being in demand. I've had 6 requests in the last 3 weeks from people looking to buy one, asking if I'd sell it.

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            • SGY
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jul 2003
              • 990



              #21
              Sell it and buy a 206. I bet the OP in this thread would be interested.

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              • Edwin
                • Jul 2003
                • 219

                • St. Louis


                #22
                Originally posted by SGY
                Sell it and buy a 206. I bet the OP in this thread would be interested.
                LOL!!! You have any idea what a 206 costs?

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                • scottrob
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 129

                  • Houston, TX


                  #23
                  You guys are concerning me with your comment around discontinuing the 216 AND them then not holding their value.

                  The 216 has not been out all that long. I asked several dealers about this and the claim not to have heard of any such discontinuation - but then again, I would not expect them to talk about it much.

                  Jeff or others - can you comment on this holding of value issue? Man, I just bought mine and will be ULTRA pi__ed if it does not bring the CC resale with it - was obviously one of my motivators in the purchase.

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                  • AbunDiga909
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2470

                    • St. Louis, MO


                    #24
                    scottrob, I disagree with you a bit here, and think you're worrying to a little bit too much. The 216 has been out a very long time. In fact, its been there since, well, ever since the Sport Nautique came out, and that I think was around '91. The 216 specifically, the one you see today, has been like this since '03. It was a MAJOR hit then. Don't forget, going back to Sept. of '02, the 216 was the big news. Everyone was all over the 216 as being the BEST crossover boat on the market! Every magazine was amazed by how versitile it was, and everyone agreed that this boat was the boat for anyone to get who did crossover activities. It was seen as bringing back the use of the DD, and was a major hit. However, when the 211 came out, the greatness of the 216 dissapeared, and it suddenly was reduced to just another DD. Pre-'03, the 216 was the Sport Nautiuqe/Air Nautique. Both those boats were great hits also for the family, even though they could only hold 9. The expansion of the Sport Nautique in '03 was well in need, and opened up the boat much more. Created a nice sized cockpit and bow, and expanded the capacity to 10.

                    I can see the 216 being discontinued in the future, but not so near. It's still a great boat, and the sharpest one CC makes today IMO. I do think it's being put in the shadows by the 206/211/220, but with CC's new factory, I don't think they have the need for space like they used to. And more, even if they were to discontinue it, they wouldn't leave our boats in the dust, they just can't do that, not only would they still be under warantee, but its still their boat, and we own it, and they have to honor that. And if that were to happen, I'd just look at it as making our boats that much more special...
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                    • NautiqueJeff
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                      • Mar 2002
                      • 16526
                      • Lake Norman

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by scottrob
                      Jeff or others - can you comment on this holding of value issue? Man, I just bought mine and will be ULTRA pi__ed if it does not bring the CC resale with it - was obviously one of my motivators in the purchase.
                      First, let me say that I haven't heard anything about them discontinuing the 216. That is just a theory that I have.

                      It is a Correct Craft, and I don't know of any Correct Craft models that haven't held their value better than most other brands. I wouldn't worry about your boat holding its value. The materials and the CC build quality are the key factors.

                      You have an excellent boat that you will enjoy for years. Have fun with it!
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                      • smay1981
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 37

                        • Plano, TX


                        #26
                        I just was at the Dallas Boat show and asked the Buxton Nautique dealer about the future of the 216 and they said its here to say. They already sold the one on the floor as well. I am going for a test drive next week on the 216,211 and 210. I leaning towards a 216 right now anyways coming from a 81 SN. Enjoy it, any Nautique holds value very well.
                        :grin:
                        Scott
                        Former owner of this 81SN
                        Current owner of this 94SN

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                        • 89SN2001
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 13



                          #27
                          Why do you think they may discontinue the 216?

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                          • FatBoy
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 756

                            • Eastern North Carolina


                            #28
                            Cause the true skier would rather be in a 206 and the true wakeboarder would rather be in a 211. Therefore (if there is the desire to have only one crossover boat) since there are more wakeboarders than skiers the crossover boat for the big picture should lean heavier on the wakeboard boat side of the equation.
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                            • 89SN2001
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 13



                              #29
                              Guess you're a wakeboarder?? We are still buying for us (Mom and Dad) with the idea that our 3 boys may want to wakeboard some day. They are only 3,5 and 7 and only the 3 year old has learned to ski for a great distance. Maybe by the time they need bigger wakes, I will just be skiing behind the boat anyway.

                              Seems though that they would want to fill both needs. My suggestion to MidwestCC was to have a hydrogate not like for the 196 (trick slalom) but like the wakeboard boats (slalom/wakeboard) Then we would have better crossover

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                              • 89SN2001
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 13



                                #30
                                Edwin-

                                Not going to do the test drive on the Pre-05 Bu Slxi this weekend. Expecting 2 inches of snow on Saturday. Were hoping for next week. Will let you know

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