Any hope of getting 6"-8" out of tower down height?

[cedarcreek216]

We have a 2013 210 and my best measurement is about 7'-6" to 7'-8" high with the tower down. Is there any reasonable way to get 6" out of the height? Would lowering the wheel Jack help that much or is there no possible way I'm getting in a 7'-0 garage door?


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[Nordicron]

I think your prob outa luck. With adjusting the torsion axel and reducing wheel size u can gain about 4inches. U might need to get ahold of boat mate and ask for a custom. Gonna be spendy

[scottb7]

You could take some air out of the trailer tires if it helps...but kind of a pita.

[cedarcreek216]

Figured I was out of luck. We are thinking about building a new house, builder house of course so we don't have a lot of freedom on changes. It has a four car garage with two side by side and two in tandem so that stall is 40' long. 7' door height of course. I'll ask about raising the header a foot, but sure I know the answer.

I didn't know if I could gain enough height by using a floor dolly and lowering the wheel Jack as low as possible. Assumed it would not make too much difference in the middle of the boat.


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[nyryan2001]

You are NOT out of luck.

40$ fix. Heavy duty U bolt to a well placed 750-1000lb caster wheel.

Back it in till the transom is in the garage. Drop the trailer down on the caster using a rolling Jack. Push it in the rest of the way by hand.

[Nordicron]

Sorry but dropping the front down is not gonna lower the hinge part of the tower which is the highest part of that era 210.

[SkiTower]

If you're building I would do what the builder asks for a taller door. It will be worth it in the pong run.


2007 SV211 SE

[nyryan2001]

Depends.... Where is the highest point when the tower is folded? By the windshield? Or further back? If the highest point when the tower is folded is over the trailer tires.... You won't lower your clearance any. If the lowest point is further forward towards the windshield... You absolutely will drop 6-8".
Any pics of the boat with the tower folded?

[cedarcreek216]

The tower folds down completely behind the windshield and the highest point is somewhere between the axels and the windshield.

I've asked about getting an 8' door which would clear no problem. Unfortunately here in the great suburb of Frisco, TX the builders don't like to make changes in structure. That would be too easy and every house would not look the same.


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[Quinner]

Changing the door height is not necessarily a structural change, several ways to achieve it without changing anything structurally. If the height is there simply push the header up, drop the slab an additional foot, use taller studs (could change other things depending on the floor plan) or structurally you could use a different header material that is not as deep.

[Noahsark]

That's not as easy as you make it to be Quinner. Depending on what state your in and what their building codes are will control what size Header is needed. Also factors in which way trusses are running to know if it's a load bearing wall. Also is it an 8 foot wide door or 16' door?

With all of this said I'm sure the Header that is there now is what code calls for, so there would be no way to decrease the size of it, unless Maybe? an LVL beam would be shorter and be able to carry the required weight.

Also you have to factor in ceiling height. You cannot make the door to tall or you won't have enough clearance for your door track.

I'm a house builder here in Virginia. Give me some measurements such as door width, ceiling height, is there a room over the garage? and I should be able to help you out with a fix, if possible.

[Quinner]

Actually depending on the situation it certainly is an easy modification.

He is making it taller not wider, why would that effect the header size?? Again, just bringing the opening up, it's either load bearing or not originally so how would that change anything?? He did not specify door size however he also did not say he was increasing the width, so again no effect on the structure.

Read my post again, "if the height is there push it up". , if there is already a 9 or 10' ceiling in that space it should be easily doable, if lower, as I said you would need to look at what is going on above/roof lines, etc.

As far as the existing header and decreasing the size, if simply dimensional lumber there are alternative materials/methods available with less depth and equal span capacity.

Now if its standard pre-cut framed walls and complex roof lines and/or finished space above, it could require a great deal of design/engineering to alter.

[Noahsark]

Quinner, I was just trying to give good, knowledgeable, well informed information. I'm not about to get into an argument, or full explanation of how a garage is built.


I know he isn't making the door wider, but you have to know how wide the original door is as this sometimes effects how big a Header has to be used. Also in Virginia here, the Header is already at the top of the existing wall, and then you add 2x10's right above the door opening, for added strength and mounting of the door track.

You stated:

"As far as the existing header and decreasing the size, if simply dimensional lumber there are alternative materials/methods available with less depth and equal span capacity."

There again this maybe can be done, but not without an engineered drawing, and documents with "seals", which can get quite expensive. Also we haven't even gotten into is it a brick front garage or siding? Also what are the "uplift requirements", and hurricane re-inforcement for his state? Is the garage sittin on a slab of concrete or "plem walls"?

You stated:

Read my post again, "if the height is there push it up". , if there is already a 9 or 10' ceiling in that space it should be easily doable, if lower, as I said you would need to look at what is going on above/roof lines, etc.

There is one of my questions. If he only has a 9' ceiling and he raises the opening to a little over 8', then I doubt the door track will work, unless maybe he pays extra and gets 'low clearance" door track from his door supplier, and then he will lose his door opener, or pay big money for a special opener if it's available?


Again I'm a Class A contractor with over 25 years of building knowledge. I was just trying to help out, from a builder standpoint

[cedarcreek216]

Thanks for the responses. For background I am an architect and now manage a construction group for a large national restaurant company. Both of you guys are correct. It is a very easy change construct ability wise, but I am working with a tract builder who does not like changes and a city in Frisco that also does not like changes. The height is there to move the header up a foot, it's just getting everyone to buy into it. I am assuming I am going to lose the battle with one or the other or both.

The builder calls it a structural change because it will in their world require revisions to the drawings. I should have clarified its truly not a structural issue other than drawing modifications. The width won't change just longer Jack or King studs to hold the header.

So that leaves me with figuring out if there is a way to tick under 7'0" which I have come to the realization it's not going to happen.


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[Noahsark]

cedarcreek216. it is a structual change in my state, and I doubt it if it really isn't in your state also. A garage is a whole lot of difference than a house, or restaurant.

Because of the massive opening compared to "walk in doors", there are different codes on garages because of the wind uplifts that can happen?

Now if this is an entirely new house being constructed, and you have high enough ceilings that won't require plan changes, and roof line alterations, then your builder should be able to change it to what ever you want with no problems or 'changes to plans or permits. Your city of Frisco should have no say in this as long as the original plans have already passed the codes and planning dept.

Now maybe? your home owners association has in their bylaws, that all houses have to have a certain size garage opening and can't exceed a certain size? maybe that's the builder's hesitation?

Either way good luck ! I was just trying to help out.