Any hope of getting 6"-8" out of tower down height?

[cedarcreek216]

I certainly appreciate the help and advice. It's a brand new house so it really is as, or should be, as simple as it sounds.

The city of Frisco will definitely have a say, building here is no treat. In all the places around the county this is one of the most difficult I have ever encountered. Either way, I'm waiting in the answer on changing to an 8' opening otherwise I think I am SOL if they won't raise it.


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[cedarcreek216]

And I will definitely be leaning on you in the future. We are going start construction on a new lake house soon and in 18 years of designing and building commercial buildings I can't for the life of me figure out a residential roof plan. There is a reason why good framers are worth their weight I guess.


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[Quinner]

And what do I know, for the past 20+ years I have merely been a partner/owner of an Architectural/Structural Engineering firm in the City of Chicago, lol.
The only thing I would do is add an 8'-0" H Opening dimension to the elevation where that garage door is shown on the permit drawings. The load will not change in any way on a 12" opening height change/increase, assuming all currently spec'd framing material will still fit you should be fine. Change would not hinder the permit process in any way.

As far as cost, door will cost more, garage door opener extension will be required if using a standard type and if things are really tight sometime a double track system is required on smaller radius turns.
Good luck, you will really appreciate that 8' opening more then you think, get er done!!

[Double D]

Thanks for the responses. For background I am an architect and now manage a construction group for a large national restaurant company. Both of you guys are correct. It is a very easy change construct ability wise, but I am working with a tract builder who does not like changes and a city in Frisco that also does not like changes. The height is there to move the header up a foot, it's just getting everyone to buy into it. I am assuming I am going to lose the battle with one or the other or both.

The builder calls it a structural change because it will in their world require revisions to the drawings. I should have clarified its truly not a structural issue other than drawing modifications. The width won't change just longer Jack or King studs to hold the header.

So that leaves me with figuring out if there is a way to tick under 7'0" which I have come to the realization it's not going to happen.


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This drives me crazy!! You'll never be happy with a 7' door and I would start throwing a little (or a lot) money at it to get these lazy mothers off their butts to do what the home owner wants, and needs. Are you in a HOA area that won't allow a boat in the drive?? If so, you'll never be able to store it at home without a taller door.

When I built, I asked to increase to 8' doors for a 9' and 16' wide doors, the builder told me what it would cost, I paid the money, and thank god every time I use the boat, that I raised them.

As for drawing changes, send me a CAD file (or PDF printed from the drawing program) and I'll update them for free.

Good luck and stay firm on getting these doors.

[cedarcreek216]

I offered to update the drawings myself as well, of course I knew the answer to that suggestion when I made it. Told me today they will raise the two doors, one double and one single to 8' for $1200. We will pay the money no doubt. So now I have a 40' long garage but only an 8'-3" door next to a double side by side garage. Looks like a trailer valet is in my future. I'll have to back it in as much as possible to the double door then manual move it into the 40 footer. No way they will make it wider, already squashed that.

Next question is what do yall think the tongue weight is on a 210? The trailer valet says 500 pound max tongue weight. Any other good options for manually moving a boat?


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[SkiTower]

So now I have a 40' long garage but only an 8'-3" door next to a double side by side garage. Looks like a trailer valet is in my future. I'll have to back it in as much as possible to the double door then manual move it into the 40 footer.

Not quite following: are you suggesting the boat/trailer won't fit in an 8'3" wide opening? It will be tight, bit it should.


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[Quinner]

So now I have a 40' long garage but only an 8'-3" door next to a double side by side garage. Looks like a trailer valet is in my future. I'll have to back it in as much as possible to the double door then manual move it into the 40 footer. No way they will make it wider, already squashed that.

Next question is what do yall think the tongue weight is on a 210? The trailer valet says 500 pound max tongue weight. Any other good options for manually moving a boat?

The housing market must be very strong there for your builder to be that rigid, crazy. How wide is the 40' deep stall, do you have the room to increase the opening?? When I built mine, 16'wx40'd second garage stall, used a 12'x8' door in that stall, made backing the trailer in much easier. If you will have a straight shot backing in won't be so bad however even just another foot to 9 or even 10 would be great.

Typically tongue weight is about 10% of the total trailer weight, which "should" put you just at or under 500lbs.

[reeder]

I might be late to the party but I had a 2011 210 that I stored in a 7ft garage. Barely fit but it did. I think the 2013 goes down lower than my 2011 did.
But I do agree, go 8ft if you can!!

[cedarcreek216]

The housing market must be very strong there for your builder to be that rigid, crazy. How wide is the 40' deep stall, do you have the room to increase the opening?? When I built mine, 16'wx40'd second garage stall, used a 12'x8' door in that stall, made backing the trailer in much easier. If you will have a straight shot backing in won't be so bad however even just another foot to 9 or even 10 would be great.

Typically tongue weight is about 10% of the total trailer weight, which "should" put you just at or under 500lbs.

The housing market is crazy, builders won't do anything that deviates from their plans. It north Dallas, fortunately for us the market is crazy. We built this house four years ago and hope to sell it for about $130k more than we paid for it.

Keep in mind these are by no means custom homes so plan changes don't come easy.

The 40' stall has and 8'-3" opening and widens out to 9'-6" wall to wall inside.


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[cedarcreek216]

Not quite following: are you suggesting the boat/trailer won't fit in an 8'3" wide opening? It will be tight, bit it should.


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Not a chance I don't think. I believe the beam is 96" or something like that and the guide poles and fenders on the trailer stick out past that.


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[Double D]

I offered to update the drawings myself as well, of course I knew the answer to that suggestion when I made it. Told me today they will raise the two doors, one double and one single to 8' for $1200. We will pay the money no doubt. So now I have a 40' long garage but only an 8'-3" door next to a double side by side garage. Looks like a trailer valet is in my future. I'll have to back it in as much as possible to the double door then manual move it into the 40 footer. No way they will make it wider, already squashed that.

Next question is what do yall think the tongue weight is on a 210? The trailer valet says 500 pound max tongue weight. Any other good options for manually moving a boat?


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Well I'm glad you got your 8' tall doors. Is that 8'3" with framing and siding on it? If not, I might get smaller.

If its only the guide poles that stick past the 8'-3" you might be able to make it. I have a friend with an 8' door and he removes the guide pole pads and forces it into the door. The poles on his trailer will flex in and he only has an inch or so on each side of the fenders. Scares me every time he does it.

[Rick]

I think I would get wheel dollies. Then you can push the boat over then reattach the car and carefully back it into the 40'. They will add about 4"s to the height but that would be after the door. I did this and could push my 4000# SN all over the garage by myself.

[cedarcreek216]

That's a good idea, can you suggest a type or style of floor dolly?


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[Rick]

These are the ones I bought. http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb...-pc-61283.html. They are rated at 1000 lb and I used 4. They also have a set rated at 1500#. They are easy to get rolling and it only took 10 minutes to jack up the trailer and put them underneath.

[krt]

Next question is what do yall think the tongue weight is on a 210? The trailer valet says 500 pound max tongue weight. Any other good options for manually moving a boat?

http://www.powerdolly.co/products/ac-dollies

I have one of these, (AC-6 model). I have had it for years. Used it to push my other boat up my drive way into and through my garage to the back yard. I have the AC-6 since my drive way is pretty steep. No trouble at all moving my 210 around. Allows me to put the boat exactly where I need it. I will say they have gone up in price since I bought mine.