Give me all your opinions on the 2015 Nautique 230

[archcityblues]

unless you are a pro caliber, hardcore wakeboarder youd be crazy to go with a g over a 210 or 230. 95% of wakeboarders will never outgrow a 210 or 230 anyway. so many reasons for the 210 230. versitility, surf wave, fuel, storage, towing and on water handling to mention a few.

[shag]

I had an 09 230, (cried when I had to sell) and it had an AMAZING surf wave with little effort. I have heard many guys say that the 230 surf wave is even better than the G boats. ( although I have no experience). My 230 had the 343 and I didn't see a need for more. I had driven both boats weighted down with the 343 and 409 with stock props and noticed little of any difference. I also prefer the fresh water cooled boat with no closed cooling to mess with. If I had the money, I would look for another 2009 230 SAN. I realize the G boats are bigger and they are nice, but I am also not a fan of one single display for everything. I keep my boats longer (generally) and I don't want to pay to replace that. Also, have seen a few LINC's fail and then you have nothing. Just my .02

[axeman]

Pro ballast is just additional bags in the rear lockers on top of stock. I believe they are 300 lb bags? In the video I posted, we are running around 4k ballast with all sacs full + people. The boat doesn't really list on either side. If anything, its the passengers all sitting on one side because they aren't used to a boat with NSS (they thought they all had to move to one side). However, I will say more weight on the surf side than the opposite side does help regardless of whether you have NSS or not, its just not necessary.

You can get some airs off my wave. Everyone in the video was trying to just have fun and isn't that advanced. The board I ride is more of a surf style board so its not really meant for 360s, airs, etc. However, in the video I was riding a different board (skim style) and was able to pull off a 360 with it (you can see it briefly in one of the drone clips). I'll be picking up a new skim style board before the summer begins and hopefully will be doing more tricks this season. It is usually just my wife and I on our boat and with the ballast configuration I've got it's plenty. Once you add more people it just gets bigger and bigger (or longer depending on how you want it). Hope this helps...

[seveet]

The cooler in the front looks like an additional 500 # of ballast😀. The pro ballast is 400# bags. We did test drive with the 400's and 600's and it does make a difference. Compared to a 23 lsv and 22 Lxv wake, 230 wake seemed steeper and had more push. The NSS does cause the boat to list slightly when deployed, much more so than surf gate. My wife also found the 230 much easier to drive.

[josemolino]

Hi Ninja,
I have used the 230 and I have bought the G21. With the G21 you have everything you need...space, ballast, storage, wake configuration...for a price. I haven´t felt any different problem on choppy water. Remember that the hull is v-shaped under the water although you see the flat one above it. If it´s choppy you can ride, you cannot wakeboard, and given the low speed it does not really affect when surfing.
If the G21 is your choice, go for the 409 engine. It´s more than enough for any ballast/people configuration.

[cedarcreek216]

I guess I just use pro ballast as a term, not a true guide. You can put larger bags, just have them plumbed in weather from the factory of your dealer, it doesn't matter. I had my dealer do it and it works great. Drain is through the stock holes, we did not make any new through hulls, it's just an overflow type system. Once the hard tank is full it drains into the sac instead of overflow out the through hull. Once the sac is full then it overflows out the side. Same for draining, it empties the hard tank and the sac drains into it as the tank empties. The box sac can either go in the ski locker or under the seats. Under the seats is a U shaped bow sac and in the locker is the arrow shaped sac, I think both hold close to 650 pounds.

[Ninja]

The cooler in the front looks like an additional 500 # of ballast😀. The pro ballast is 400# bags. We did test drive with the 400's and 600's and it does make a difference. Compared to a 23 lsv and 22 Lxv wake, 230 wake seemed steeper and had more push. The NSS does cause the boat to list slightly when deployed, much more so than surf gate. My wife also found the 230 much easier to drive.

My surfgate boat doesn't list the boat at all, but it is more difficult to drive. I do imagine the 230 easier to drive with NSS, but the wave being taller is not a positive for me. I want a shorter, longer, harder wave....compared to steeper, softer, shorter. I am starting to believe all these surf systems throw our a very similiar wave. Maybe siiting back for a year and observing everything is the way to go.

[cedarcreek216]

My surfgate boat doesn't list the boat at all, but it is more difficult to drive. I do imagine the 230 easier to drive with NSS, but the wave being taller is not a positive for me. I want a shorter, longer, harder wave....compared to steeper, softer, shorter. I am starting to believe all these surf systems throw our a very similiar wave. Maybe siiting back for a year and observing everything is the way to go.

Bow weight in a Nautique will get you that kind of wave.

[axeman]

I forgot we also had a tube sac in the walk way which is another ~ 400 lbs. Sorry it's been six months!

[nyryan2001]

[axeman]

If you do anything larger than 550 lbs sacs you cannot use the rear storage trays. Otherwise, I would have done 750s back there. To be honest, the setup I have is plenty.

[Ninja]

AXEMAN,


How could you be running close to 4000 pounds with two 550's in the rear, two rear hard tanks, midship, and the 400 tube sac?


Or did I misunderstand?

How is the freeboard on this boat when you pick up the rider. Do get a little water in from the rollers? How is the throttle? Is is electronic or by wire? Is it tight or kind of loose? Thank you again for your iformation.

[axeman]

Stock ballast is 2100 lbs. Add the difference with the 550s and you are up to 2400 lbs (difference is an additional 300 lbs). Add the 400 lb tube sac and you are at 2800 lbs. There were 10 people in the boat that weekend, 4 guys and 6 girls. If you take an average weight of 170 lbs per guy and 110 lbs per girl thats 1230 lbs total. 2800 + 1230 is 4030 lbs + gas. I was referring to that specific weekend. I don't normally run that much weight. Just the 2400 lbs mentioned is what I typically run + driver + full tank of gas (since like I said its usually just my wife and I).

If you are referring to dipping the nose or taking water over the bow, I'd say it's up to the driver. My guess is the G would be about the only boat that it wouldn't be easy to do if at all possible. Nonetheless, you can get water in the boat easily over the transom if you let off the throttle quickly on both the 230 and the G, Its really up to your driving skills. I will say it is a lot harder to take on water over the bow in a 230 than my buddy's 247 LSV in the video.

Mine is a 2014 so I don't have the electronic throttle. The newer ones are much smoother and less mechanical feeling. Its up to personal preference here but no matter which route you go you'll end up getting used to it. When I first got my 230 new the throttle was very tight. After about a month or two of use it loosened up enough to where I like it.

Hope this helps and ask as many questions as you'd like!