Serious Thoughts About Safe Towing - G-Series Nautiques

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  • SoCal G-Man
    • Apr 2016
    • 329

    • Westlake Village

    • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

    Originally posted by Tallredrider View Post
    RDT you are absolutely right. 2 inch balls are much more common, but the vast majority out there are rated for 5K or 8K at the most. You have to search to find a stronger 2 inch ball. Knowing the weight on the trailer, they should have constructed it with the bigger ball hitch.

    Cue jokes:
    Check your balls, fellas!

    Bigger balls are better!
    I use the Curt 12k-lb ball mount and 12k-lb 2” ball on my SUV, and I run the Andersen Rapid Hitch on my truck with a 2” 10k-lb ball. I have been selling Andersen and Curt for almost 20 years with no returns. That’s why I run them on my vehicles. If you have a 10k or higher ball mount already, find a local Curt dealer that carries the high capacity 2” balls. Take your mount so you can test fit to ensure it will accept the ball shank diameter.
    2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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    • RDT-G23
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jun 2017
      • 589

      • TEXAS

      • 2020 G23 PARAGON I 2017 G23(sold)

      Post edited to remove unnecessary quote. See Quote Guidelines here.

      Ill take your advice, and have looked at those mounts. I guess this is what I will have to use, versus my Weigh Safe when towing the boat. I suppose it is cheaper/easier than changing the surge actuator.

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      • JSDeininger
        • Sep 2019
        • 10

        • St. Petersburg, FL

        • 2007 MC Xstar SS 2016 Tidewater 210LXF

        I know that I'm going to get shredded asking this:

        Will a 7,000lb tow-capacity Chevy Colorado on a standard hitch be able to move a 2015 G23 about a mile down a residential, coastal Florida (i.e., pancake-flat) sidestreet to a newly-tractioned/surfaced ramp and drop in? Or is this just completely out of the realm of possibility?

        We're keeping it on a lift, so I don't plan to tow except for service (I can have my dealer come hook up my trailer and pull it when it needs service, if necessary.)

        Thanks in advance! Great info on here.

        -James

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        • jtryon
          • Jun 2011
          • 239

          • CT

          • 2007 Centurion Typhoon

          there's no way i'd be upgrading to a 3/4 ton tow rig for a mile flat tow twice a year. it will move it fine, just give plenty of stopping room and you'll be ok.

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          • SoCal G-Man
            • Apr 2016
            • 329

            • Westlake Village

            • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

            Originally posted by JSDeininger View Post
            I know that I'm going to get shredded asking this:

            Will a 7,000lb tow-capacity Chevy Colorado on a standard hitch be able to move a 2015 G23 about a mile down a residential, coastal Florida (i.e., pancake-flat) sidestreet to a newly-tractioned/surfaced ramp and drop in? Or is this just completely out of the realm of possibility?

            We're keeping it on a lift, so I don't plan to tow except for service (I can have my dealer come hook up my trailer and pull it when it needs service, if necessary.)

            Thanks in advance! Great info on here.

            -James

            Just borrow or rent a vehicle that is rated to tow/stop at least 8500-lbs. Most accidents occur closer to home, so the "only towing a mile" theory is out the window. The word "residential" is also a red flag. A little common sense can save you (and others) some headaches. Be safe!
            2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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            • JSDeininger
              • Sep 2019
              • 10

              • St. Petersburg, FL

              • 2007 MC Xstar SS 2016 Tidewater 210LXF

              Ok, thank you for the great info. I'm just wondering where the weakest link in this tow set-up would be. Is there a possibility of the hitch snapping or something? Or the truck getting dragged down the ramp when launching?

              I mentioned 'residential' because I don't drive more than 20mph on my way to the ramp -- So I don't think I have to worry about my truck's brakes too much.

              I've towed my Xstar (4500lb + 1500? trailer) multiple times across Florida with this truck set-up, and the MC trailer didn't even have working brakes. Just gave plenty of room to stop on the highway. Bed didn't sag at all either.

              Looks like the G23 is about 1,000lbs heavier than my Xstar (5400 dry, according to their specs).

              Thanks again!

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              • c640947
                • Jul 2013
                • 112

                • Badin Lake, NC

                • 2021 Nautique G23 Paragon ///// 2016 Mastercraft ProStar with tower

                I think the weakest link is not being able to stop. If you are towing it a short distance, driving slow, plenty of stopping room and ramp isn't too steep, you are probably fine. Its not safe or legal, but it may also not be unsafe, if that makes sense.

                Not being able to accelerate fast enough (getting hit from behind) is probably not an issue here. Things breaking... maybe but doubtful.
                Current:
                2021 Nautique G23 Paragon
                2016 Mastercraft Prostar with tower

                Previous:
                2014 Super Air Nautique G23 XR550 / EZ Loader trailer with custom Electric over Hydraulic brakes
                1996 Sylvan Special Edition 24" pontoon boat
                2006 Mastercraft X2
                1995 Mastercraft ProStar 190 with new dimension tower

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                • SoCal G-Man
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 329

                  • Westlake Village

                  • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                  Originally posted by JSDeininger View Post
                  Ok, thank you for the great info. I'm just wondering where the weakest link in this tow set-up would be. Is there a possibility of the hitch snapping or something? Or the truck getting dragged down the ramp when launching?

                  I mentioned 'residential' because I don't drive more than 20mph on my way to the ramp -- So I don't think I have to worry about my truck's brakes too much.

                  I've towed my Xstar (4500lb + 1500? trailer) multiple times across Florida with this truck set-up, and the MC trailer didn't even have working brakes. Just gave plenty of room to stop on the highway. Bed didn't sag at all either.

                  Looks like the G23 is about 1,000lbs heavier than my Xstar (5400 dry, according to their specs).

                  Thanks again!
                  Most G23s on the trailer weigh @ 8500-lbs before loading gear. G23 Tongue Weight is 750-850 lbs. normally. Your Colorado will have the max weights listed on the hitch. Most likely, you will see 3,500-lbs, 5,000-lbs or 7500-lbs. listed on a factory hitch. Factory GM Hitches on trucks from 2007+ are notorious for being weak and failing. Be careful.
                  2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                  • jjackkrash
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2007
                    • 498

                    • PacNW

                    • 2021 Ski

                    One mile on the flats once or twice? As much as I am generally against towing over loaded, I'd be tempted to load it up and drive slowly.

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                    • doug69
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 94

                      • Canada

                      • 2016 230

                      I agree with the folks saying that towing a couple miles overloaded is not a huge deal.... vehicles typically are rated below capacity for legal
                      And safety reasons. However I’m always surprised when someone buys a $200k boat and won’t shell out an extra $10-20k for at least a 1/2 ton. In the case of a quarter ton Colorado you could buy a
                      Slightly less well appointed 1500 for close to the same Price.


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                      • JSDeininger
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 10

                        • St. Petersburg, FL

                        • 2007 MC Xstar SS 2016 Tidewater 210LXF

                        Post edited to remove unnecessary quote. See Quote Guidelines here.

                        I agree 100%, but this is a used 2015 G23 that I'm getting for a steal -- Definitely not a brand new one. I definitely plan to upgrade my truck in the future, but we just tow so rarely that it doesn't make sense for me right now.

                        Thanks for the info on the hitch. I'll definitely check that out. Thanks!

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                        • mooneywa
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 146

                          • PK, TX

                          • 2020 230

                          JSDeininger Towing it a mile is one thing, pulling it out of the water on a wet ramp is another. I bet there's tons of places in the Tampa/St. Pete area that do work to pull big boats out of the water, so moving a G23 a mile would be nothing. If it cost you even a couple hundred bucks to have some guy with a 1 ton do the work for you, it's still cheaper than both 1) buying a new truck and 2) the wear and tear on towing with an undersized vehicle. Our lake isn't in a major metro area and there's still 2 services I can think of off the top of my head, so I'm sure there's far more where you live.

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                          • SoCal G-Man
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 329

                            • Westlake Village

                            • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                            https://www.enterprise.com/en/car-re...ge-pickup.html

                            Rent an F150 for the day. Problem solved.
                            2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                            • Zac
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 19

                              • BC

                              • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                              Does anyone have experience or care to comment on the new 2022 Toyota Tundra (Platinum) Hybrid engine and if this truck would be able to handle a 2019 G23 with a triple axle trailer? I don't plan to tow, but if at some point we upgrade trucks I'd like it to be capable. Would definitely go with a WDH after reading through this thread and ensure the tires are up to snuff.

                              From what I can find, the payload rating seems quite low on the truck around ~1300lbs with a tow rating of ~11000lbs. What would I need to add or make it as safe as possible or best to avoid considering this truck (no rush here as I may wait a year or two and definitely considering other options)?

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                              • blueroom
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 615

                                • Northwest

                                • G23

                                IMO, a half ton pickup should not be used to tow a G23 on a regular basis. It's not the go that is the issue, it's the stop.

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