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  • Ryan_E
    • May 2004
    • 73

    • Texas


    #46
    I understand that every boat has there problems but unless you have owned the “other” brand I don’t think one can accurately compare problems. I owned a 03 VLX, bought it brand new. After having it for 2 ½ summers I had over a 3” 3 ring binder filled with service call records. The service calls were from bolts and washers falling out from under the drivers dash, the boat was in roughly 20 times for ballast problems that ranged from pumps, center sac, to the plugs in the hard tanks braking and popping out, oil pressure sending of wrong singles, the wedge bolts braking off from the arm, the madden voyage all the gauges went blank and limp. I could go on and on about all the problems that I had with my Malibu. But in the end I still consider her a good boat. And please know one say that, well they gotten better since 03...My buddies 05 VLX has had ton of crap go wrong too. And we both take/taken great care of the boat/s.

    As for my 06 210, everything has been great. Not one problem. Will I have problems/warranty work done in the future? I imagine, but that’s all part of owning something, whether it is a car, boat, etc…So yes, for those of you that have had issues, that sucks. But don’t forget about all the others that had/have great experience with our new CC.

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    • Onthewater
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jul 2003
      • 695

      • Near the cheddar curtain


      #47
      There are tons of stories of good experiences with buying new boats from CC as well as other manufacturers, however recently people are starting to accept poor workmanship as somewhat of a standard. I understand that screws and bolts will need retightening after transport and a few water runs but not electrical work, faulty throttle, dead pumps, etc.. Do you have to prepare yourself that there might be a possibility your boat can come like that? These are BRAND NEW boats, that should be the last thing on your mind when you, the customer, take delivery of your new boat. What happens if you take your new truck home and the next day the electrical system fails, throttle sticks, brakes fail, yada yada yada?

      I agree that the fit and finish and overall build quality is quite possibly the highest with CC but the gap is closing.

      Don't get me wrong, I find CCs the most appealing in nearly every aspect, but with our "what other boat" thread it appears many do have other options/choices and are not opposed to exploring them.
      I don\'t care.

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      • jhiestand
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jul 2003
        • 778

        • Columbus, Ohio

        • 08 Super Air 210

        #48
        The other major brands DO experience similar issues. A buddy of mine's 05 VLX was delivered to him with the tower over a foot off center. They finally got his boat into the shop last month to swap it out for a new one. Another buddy's bought his VLX new in 04 and it has been in/out of the shop continually (2 years) since he's owned it ironing out electrical gremlins. The stereo has been swapped out 4 times by the dealer! Last season a friends' 05 SAN210 had tower speaker issues on delivery one wouldn't work and the balance was switched on them. Another friend had a huge list of issues with his 'new' 02 MC X10 and took it into the dealer for fixing. They kept breaking new items on it and he would take it back in. They even rubbed through the gelcoat of the boat when trying to clean it up! He was so fed up he got rid of it and bought a brand new MC205v through a different dealer last season. It had the Perfect Pass hooked up wrong -- we spent nearly an hour floating by the ramp wrenching on it so it wouldn't idle at 2500rpm's. All these boats were brand new, even though a few of the experiences were over a year ago.

        Point is, boats aren't mass-produced like cars and therefore you can't expect quality levels to be the same, regardless of price. They're hand assembled to a large extent, making them pricey and subject to quality issues. Face it, a boat is a luxury item and the prices reflect that fact. I think if you have repeated poor experiences with one brand, go with another until you find something you like. Just don't be suprised if you run into similar issues with other brands, too.

        I'd take it back and let the dealer try and rectify the issues. If they can't please you 100%, complain like heck, return it and get something else!
        '08 Super Air Nautique 210

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        • dave210
          • Jan 2006
          • 113

          • jax fl


          #49
          man im glad airplanes are not built like boats. it is rediculous to spend that much money and have problems but thats the boating industry . cheap labor is the main contributor to poor quality control.oh well these issues can be fixed and you still have the best inboard on the water.

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          • surroundsound64
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 2147

            • Longview, TX

            • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

            #50
            Originally posted by dave210
            man im glad airplanes are not built like boats. it is rediculous to spend that much money and have problems but thats the boating industry . cheap labor is the main contributor to poor quality control.oh well these issues can be fixed and you still have the best inboard on the water.
            haha! They need to have a like certification for boats ski/wakeboard boats... "sea worthy" or "not sea worthy"!
            2018 SAN 230
            1981 Ski Nautique
            Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
            Sold - 2000 SAN

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            • M3Fan
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 1034



              #51
              I know we talked about boats/cars not being apples-to-apples, but this looks SO familiar. When I was more into cars and owned a BMW, I was on the BMW boards every day, just like I am with the boat boards. Posts with long laundry lists (I mean CRAZY lists of problems) like this looked almost exactly the same as this one does. 5 pages of replies, falling into basic categories like this:

              1. Unacceptable for this level/price of car
              2. Happens to all cars, give them a chance
              3. I'm thinking of buying a different brand car next time (Infiniti G35, Benz, Lexus 300IS)
              4. BMW is slipping in quality

              Heck there's probably a post on www.e46fanatics.com right now that is just like this. I think this could happen with any product, and I'd guess CC is not really concerned about this thread.
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              2000 Ski Nautique GT-40
              2016 SN 200 H5
              www.Fifteenoff.com

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              • jon4pres
                • Aug 2005
                • 189



                #52
                Correct Craft should be concerned about these kind of posts. If they are building bad boats people the word will spread and hurt CC.

                I bet Correct Craft would have cared it the trottle would have broken and he would have run over another boat full of people killing 5 or 6 kids. Which would have ended in a multimillion dollar lawsuit.

                I sometimes wonder why we never hear from CC execs on this board. I would think it would be good publicity.

                I know that I have seen posts from Rick Tinker who I think is President of Skiers Choice (Supra/Moomba) on Wakeworld before.

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                • dave210
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 113

                  • jax fl


                  #53
                  now were taking this a little to far address the problems to the dealer and enjoy if correct craft sucked who would buy the boats cc is like harley they have no surpluss at the end of the year

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                  • nautique95
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 420

                    • Michigan

                    • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                    #54
                    Don't kid yourself if you think that people from CC don't see this! They know what is going on, that is why they have added people and continuing to add more people to the QC part of the process. They have put out to their dealers a bulletin about how they are striving to improve their QC. I bought two new $45,000 vehicles two years ago and guess what, they had their problems too, this isn't just the boating industry, you see it in auto, farm, and industrial equipment. Farmers spend $250,000 on new combines and have problems when they are new. Most things are very minor, you take it back to your dealer and it usually is something simple like a connection that may have come loose during shipping. The ballast issue is the fault of the maker of it that put too big of impeller in it, that isn't CC, that same pump could realistically be in a MC, BU, or any other boat, but they know it and are taking care of the problem. I would say that if your dealer doesn't take care of the problem then you have a reason to complain! Each boat is water tested before it leaves the factory so it sounds like something happened to the throttle either during transport or at the dealership. You have to look at the big picture. Alot can happen between point A and point B!

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                    • jon4pres
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 189



                      #55
                      Why are you guys making excuses for Correct Craft??

                      There is no excuse for them to put out a product with these flaws (especially flaws that make the boats unsafe) to me it doesn't matter what the auto, tractor, equipment, or folding chair industry are doing. If I am buying a boat I want it to be put together correctly and safe.

                      CC produces great boats BUT we have had at least 2 posts like this about 06 210s in the past couple of months and I hope that they figure their stuff out.

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                      • nautique95
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 420

                        • Michigan

                        • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                        #56
                        I am not making excuses, I am saying that the set screw that holds the throttle may have came loose somewhere after it left the factory, how can you blame CC for that? If it was loose during production, it would have been loose for the water test! Whose to say that maybe the dealer took it apart for some reason and forgot to tighten it! All I am saying is look at the big picture, just like me, you don't know the cicumstances that led to that event, so lets not cast blame if you don't know the whole story!

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                        • Hollywood
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1930

                          • WIIL


                          #57
                          Originally posted by jon4pres
                          Why are you guys making excuses for Correct Craft??

                          CC produces great boats BUT we have had at least 2 posts like this about 06 210s in the past couple of months and I hope that they figure their stuff out.
                          Ok so that's 2 out of how many hundred? Relax people. All this whining is getting annoying, time to get skiing!

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                          • reastwood79
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 12



                            #58
                            I am not making excuses, I am saying that the set screw that holds the throttle may have came loose somewhere after it left the factory, how can you blame CC for that? If it was loose during production, it would have been loose for the water test! Whose to say that maybe the dealer took it apart for some reason and forgot to tighten it! All I am saying is look at the big picture, just like me, you don't know the cicumstances that led to that event, so lets not cast blame if you don't know the whole story!
                            Well as far as the set screw coming loose after it left the factory, the dealership I deal with is like two blocks from the factory. The head tech from the factory actually stated the set screw was improperly installed from the factory. The tech's that worked at the dealership would not touch the boat.

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                            • nautique95
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 420

                              • Michigan

                              • 1987 SN 2001 1994 SN 1995 Signature Edition 2005 206 Air Limited 2007 SV211 Team

                              #59
                              Fair enough, just a suggestion.

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                              • Onthewater
                                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 695

                                • Near the cheddar curtain


                                #60
                                Originally posted by Hollywood
                                All this whining is getting annoying, time to get skiing!
                                uh yeah...
                                I don\'t care.

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