2012 230 wake vs. legacy 2005 SAN 210 wake

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  • nautiques4life
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2009
    • 696

    • SoCal

    • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

    2012 230 wake vs. legacy 2005 SAN 210 wake

    Just picked up a used 2012 (new to me) 230 and finally got it in the water today. Coming from a 2005 SANTE 210 I was actually kind of disappointed sadly. Had the 210 for years- know the wake real well. Know that I can pull to my spot with just a driver and observer fill up the stock ballast and have a super fun good sized poppy wake. Fill some aditional bags and wake is insane. I'd heard the 230's isn't going to be as steep, but considering how much bigger the boat feels I'd assumed it'd push more water and be much more impressive than I saw today. Anyone think otherwise? I know lookng at it is no substitute for riding it but I am curious of others' thoughts. Anyone intermediate/advanced ride ride this boat stock? Thoughts on it vs the old 210?
  • kylem03
    • Jan 2009
    • 178

    • Wisconsin

    • 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1994 Sport Nautique 1995 Super Sport Nautique 2007 Nautique 236

    #2
    You won't be happy with it stock. My cousin has a 230 which we ride frequently. Piggyback 400s (or better yet 750s) on the rear tanks and plumb in a locker and bow sack and it'll produce okay. Better yet throw another 750 on the floor in the playpen. The boat takes a lot of weight to build a meaty wake but the shape is right. A little more gradual (at least with a little less of the bucking lip) the 210 hulls are known for. It is also sensitive to side to side balance and you'll prob always have a whitewash lip but it is solid underneath. Just deceiving getting used to looking at it and hitting it.

    Kyle

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    • nautiques4life
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jan 2009
      • 696

      • SoCal

      • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

      #3
      Thanks Kyle. Is there a way to piggyback or replace the rear tanks and still maintain the LINC 2.0's ability to know the amount of water in the ballast?

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      • swatguy
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • May 2008
        • 1631

        • Midwest/ Northern IL

        • 2008 SANTE 210

        #4
        You need extra in the 230. It's almost 3 times the size of the og 210. This it needs more weight. You idea thinking it displaces more water is correct, but you need more weight in the boat to accomplish this. Factory will not get it done. Weight it with about 400 in each rear on top of factory. And 500 in nose then get back to us

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        • jonsquatch
          • Jul 2012
          • 251

          • AZ

          • 2012 Super Air Nautique Byerly Icon

          #5
          The linc 2 only uses the floats to check how much water is in the tanks on initial system startup, after that it guesses how much you have added and removed, which is always a crap shoot. When mine was stock I always ran the pumps a second time until it overflowed so you know its full, then when you empty you need to run it a second time for about the same amount of time to truly empty it. If you don't realize your through hulls are shutoff you can watch the levels go up and and up while your impellers are melting and the tanks are still bone dry and often we went home with maybe as much as 1/4 tank or more of water still in there when it said it was empty which you don't notice until you turn it on the next time.

          The system still seems to work fine even if you toss the hard tanks and run bags instead even without the senders connected the system just starts at zero at startup and runs like normal until it guesses it should be full. If you piggyback the only difference is at startup it will check the sending units and report back there are a couple of lbs of water in the system instead of zero. The gauge can still be a little helpful though in these situations, if you have tanks completely stuffed and you need to take some out it does as keep track of run time when your emptying so when it shows you at 1/2 tank on both sides in the rear it gives you a vague idea how much you have taken off the top and that it was about equal on both sides, although once you hit zero all bets are off knowing how much is left in the tanks.

          Either way when you empty you need to pay closer attention to get it actually empty I use of combination of guessing, checking and listening to get there. For example if I was completely full it takes somewhere over 2 full cycles to get there, so I run empty twice and then check the bags to see where I am at then I hit it again and start paying closer attention to the pumps to listen for one to change pitch then I check again to see if one needs to run a bit more. Even with all that its a huge improvement over tossing pumps over the side to fill and empty multiple bags by hand every time, although if you run the stock green impellers keep some on hand in case you accidentally burn one up since your odds of doing that will go up (I switched to the blue globe run dry ones for just a bit more insurance).

          2012 Super Air Nautique 210 Byerly Icon Edition EX343 <-- Current Boat
          2007 Reinell 185 BR Volvo Penta 4.3GL <-- Former Boat
          1988 Bayliner 195 Capri OMC Cobra 5.0 <-- Former "starter" Boat

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          • nautiques4life
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jan 2009
            • 696

            • SoCal

            • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

            #6
            Thanks Swatguy... Hopefully next weekend.
            Very good information, thanks jonsquatch

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            • nautiques4life
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Jan 2009
              • 696

              • SoCal

              • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

              #7
              Is there a way to recalibrate the ballast filling times in the linc2.0?

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