2002 Super Air Nautique Known issues

[a0128]

I believe the engine hatch is manual, not electric (actually all three are manual). The electric pneumatic lift was offered through 2000. You are probably missing some of gas struts that aid in lifting the hatches.

Regarding your electrical issues; could be the pad. They have been known to fail over time. The boat came standard with ballast tanks - so I am assuming you are referring to fact that the tanks that are not filling. All this stuff (tanks, lights, etc) are controlled by the same key pad. My guess is it is defective.

Did the "sparking" sound change as the boat was run up to speed?

Throttle probably needs adjusting although for reference my throttle lever is probably at the 7 o'clock position at WOT.

The boat has a tunable rudder to compensate for the prop rotation. You will never get the steering wheel perfectly centered to track straight like a car especially at low speeds. At cruise speeds the rudder foil can be adjusted to get you close to a straight wheel. It is possible that the steering cable was replaced and the rudder wasn't straight when the cable was installed. Check the tuning foil first.

Regarding the other electrical issues (speedo, gas guage, PerfectPass), sounds like you have a loose ground somewhere.

Download and save this manual http://www.planetnautique.com/Correc...rSport2002.pdf

Keypad can be purchased here http://www.nautiqueparts.com/keypads...boardside.aspx

Get the engine oil and trans fluid changed ASAP.

[nukemustang]

Sounds like a common problem... I would start with checking the breaker box that should be under the helm and ground busses... I don't know if they are wired the same, but here: http://www.planetnautique.com/Correc...ms/2006211.PDF is a wiring diagram for a 2006 210/211. not sure what is different from 02 --> 06, but it could probably be used as a guide to get you started in the right direction. You could start by taking resistance between the battery and the breaker box and ground busses to make sure the connection is good, then start to verify things from there. The other thing that seems "common" would be the pad that runs many of those items.... maybe it is bad?

As for the hatch release, obd666 has figured that out too: http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...ease-mechanism

There is a huge resource over on nautiqueparts.com. they will have 99% of the things you need and if you don't see it, you can call and they will find it for you. I have had GREAT experiences with them helping me out in the last year.

Tim

[a0128]

As for the hatch release, obd666 has figured that out too: http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...ease-mechanism

Electric hatch RELEASE - well I learned something today. Watched the video - that is way cool.

[azeus17]

Head over to nautiqueparts.com. They will have pretty much whatever you need to get it looking right. If it ends up that the gauges are bad, I priced them out around $700 to replace all of them. The electric hatches can be fixed pretty easy if you have any electrical knowledge at all. There are actually two buttons for each hatch, the obvious ones inside the seating area, the others are located under the rear of the hatches, accessible from the swim platform. If one doesn't work, try the other. I agree that a lot of your electrical issues sound like a bad ground. Check the bulbs on the interior lights first. If one came on, the others are probably burned out. An easy upgrade is to wire in LED's in the same spot as the old bulbs, and you can change to whatever color you like. The docking lights are probably burned out too.

You mentioned there are sacks. Did they remove the hard tanks? If the pumps are not working, easy enough to check if they are getting current. Take a volt meter to the two wires going to the pumps and press the button on the dash. Should be getting somewhere around 12V DC. If you are and the pump does not come on, replace it.

You can also check the perfect pass for engine hours. You have to take them with a grain of salt as they can be reset, but not sure why anyone would. I can't remember the correct button push order, but if you look it up it is easy to do.

You said you only wakeboard, so get the PP and ballast to work and skip the rest for now, maybe the stereo too I guess, and get out and run it.

[Chexi]

I had a sparking sound on my 2000 SAN followed by intermittent engine stalling. Turned out to be a bad distributor (or really a bar PIP in the distributor I suspect, but I just replaced the entire distributor). That solved my problem. But, I would get a friend to try to help you identify where the spark is coming from. Mine was impossible to locate (because it was sparking inside the distributor), but I at least isolated it to the engine area. Also, if you have boat engine running issues, take video. That is how I was finally able to figure out my problem... by showing my dealer the video of what was happening, because it would never act up when it was in the shop.

The PP probably needs the power/ground upgrade. These older Nautiques are notorious for having insufficient wire gauge to run enough current for the PP. There are guides on here about how and where to run larger gauge wire. I had this problem too, and solved it with the larger gauge wire.

If the pumps are ballast puppies, they may be frozen up. You can sometimes salvage them by opening up the pump and using a wrench to manually turn the axle a hair, breaking it free. I just did this a week ago on one of mine. If they are aerator pumps and they are getting power and still not working, time to replace. If they are not getting power, look for a kill switch.

[alexbailey228]

So the trip back from florida was stressful but we made it back in one piece. After some research on this forum, I went to the auto parts store and purchased 800, 1000, 1500, and 2000 grit sand paper. I have made it through the 800 and 1000 so far. I wish I would of started with compound first to see how that did because I feel like the sand paper may be doing more harm than good. I think once I get past the 1500 and 2000 grit it will look better. I did find that the ground cable on the batter was broken off and a small connector was fastened to it. The ground is screwed on to the small accessory bolt instead of the actual spot where a battery cable would normally be mounted. The carpet is slightly stained. I am first going to try pressure washing, If that does not work I am either going to replace it or go with sea dek. Have not yet decided. I will hook it up to the fake a lake today and take a video of the boat running to see what you guys think. I was able to get the docking lights working but everything else is still giving some trouble. I need to get a new cover for it. I saw that you can get them off nautique parts in sunbrella. Does anyone have experience with these? Do they hold up well? Are they a good fit?

Here are some pics from the trip back.

[alexbailey228]

Sold my pristine Sport nautique today to free up funds to restore this new super air nautique. It was very hard to let it go but I am very optimistic about this new project!

[nukemustang]

So the trip back from florida was stressful but we made it back in one piece. After some research on this forum, I went to the auto parts store and purchased 800, 1000, 1500, and 2000 grit sand paper. I have made it through the 800 and 1000 so far. I wish I would of started with compound first to see how that did because I feel like the sand paper may be doing more harm than good. I think once I get past the 1500 and 2000 grit it will look better. I did find that the ground cable on the batter was broken off and a small connector was fastened to it. The ground is screwed on to the small accessory bolt instead of the actual spot where a battery cable would normally be mounted. The carpet is slightly stained. I am first going to try pressure washing, If that does not work I am either going to replace it or go with sea dek. Have not yet decided. I will hook it up to the fake a lake today and take a video of the boat running to see what you guys think. I was able to get the docking lights working but everything else is still giving some trouble. I need to get a new cover for it. I saw that you can get them off nautique parts in sunbrella. Does anyone have experience with these? Do they hold up well? Are they a good fit?

Here are some pics from the trip back.

dangit.... I wish I would have know you were going to start with 800... there is a thread in the appearance section that discusses exactly what you said and that is to start with the highest number (less coarse) stuff you can... I agree with you in that I would have tried 3m heavy rubbing compound first, if not you are just buying yourself maybe many more steps (800-->1200-->1600-->2000--> compound--> polish--> wax) vice trying the compound and then deciding it wasn't "enough" to cut it down to what you wanted it to look like.

Glad you got it back home okay and that some of the things are looking to be pretty simple. Always start with the simple solution first.

As for the cover, I ordered one from nautiqueparts.com and I am very happy with it! nice bungee around the tower legs, fits correctly too!

Tim

[s_kelley2000]

congrats on the boat! I think Chexi is spot on that inadequate power/ground to the dash is the likely culprit of your electrical issues.

For the steering wheel issue, is it just that it is way off from straight when you are driving straight? If so it was probably not lined up correctly when a steering cable was changed. This can be fixed 1 of 2 ways. Make sure the rudder is straight and then pop off the center hub with the N logo, loosen the nut enough so you can turn the wheel without turning the rudder, turn the wheel so it is straight and make sure the rudder is still straight and then tighten it back down and put the center hub back on. The other way is to remove the 6 hex bolts, pull the steering wheel off, put it back on straight and reinstall the bolts. Option one is quicker and more precise.

[alexbailey228]

Ok guys so I was able to make some real progress on the hull. Ive got it looking almost brand new. I used 4 types of sandpaper, a heavy compound, a wax, and finishing polish. I removed the decals that were pretty beat up and I am pleased with the end result. One thing I am really troubled by is my center seat that covers the cooler does not stay in place. The rubber mounts on the bottom have broken off. Does anyone know where to source these? It also seems as though the center seat is too short, there is a gap between it and the spotter seat. Does anyone else have this issue? Lastly I am looking for a new head unit for the stereo, It appears that the clarion is a special size. Can anyone recommend a replacement head unit that will fit in place of the old clarion unit without needing a dash kit?

[nukemustang]

Ok guys so I was able to make some real progress on the hull. Ive got it looking almost brand new. I used 4 types of sandpaper, a heavy compound, a wax, and finishing polish. I removed the decals that were pretty beat up and I am pleased with the end result. One thing I am really troubled by is my center seat that covers the cooler does not stay in place. The rubber mounts on the bottom have broken off. Does anyone know where to source these? It also seems as though the center seat is too short, there is a gap between it and the spotter seat. Does anyone else have this issue? Lastly I am looking for a new head unit for the stereo, It appears that the clarion is a special size. Can anyone recommend a replacement head unit that will fit in place of the old clarion unit without needing a dash kit?

Boat is looking great!!!!

for the seat rubber pieces try: http://christinesmarine.com//

I am not sure about the gap, it maybe "normal", does the observe seat hinge up? it maybe that way to allow the seat cushion of the observers seat to clear the cooler cover.

Head unit, easy if you want to stick with Clarion for size considerations, check amazon for "clarion CDM8". that should be the latest version of the marine radio, has a usb input... and you can get remotes for it to, if you would like them.

It does seem that a lot of people are skipping the head unit and just using a wet sounds q420 and their iPod/iphones as sources, but I am not the most knowledgeable when it comes to that side.

[alexbailey228]

Well I put 12 hours on the boat this weekend and it ran really well. I did a lot of surfing, I was able to get this boat to surf well. It is making a loud screeching sound at take off. At first I thought it was a belt slipping but after further inspection it sounds internal. Possibly the transmission. New thread to follow soon, I now have a good idea of what this boat really needs. Motor runs good, Tranny may need a rebuilt, some of the gauges are finicky, I REALLY wish It did not have the rear electronic hatches. I also would like to figure out how to fix my ballast tanks. One tank is stuck full and the center fills while driving. Going to make an appt. with race city marine when they open tomorrow and have them go through it.

[azeus17]

Sounds like the full tank has a bad empty pump. Easy enough to fix. As for filling while driving, there are a few options. 1) Easiest, just close the sea **** at the intake. They are located behind the middle rear seat for the rear tanks and in the center locker for the belly tank. 2) Remove sea cocks and add electronic solenoids. This will prevent any water from getting in until you turn the pumps on (open the solenoid). There is a write up on this somewhere on here. 3) Replace all fill/drain pumps with reversible impeller pumps. I went with the solenoids as it is cheaper than the reversible pumps and fairly easy to install.

I can understand your frustration with the hatch actuators. They can be annoying if you turn the boat off and then realize you need to get in there. I must have shut down all accessory power 100 times only to realize I need to get in there. I am pretty used to in now after 4 years of ownership, but still do it once in a while.

[surroundsound64]

There is a mod to replace the electric hatch with manual struts. It's around here somewhere.

[jesl_303]

Alex, have you been able to find a wiring diagram the 2002 PCM Excalibur 330? We've been looking for the Engine Controls schematic to resolve an issue of our own, so thought I'd ask....