2006 SV211 Surf Plate

[dwelsh]

Thanks very much for the photos and explanation, now I understand the installation to the bracket. Smart thinking.
Can you please tell me what the purpose of the top bracket is that sits between the boat and the platform? It is used to support the top part of the plate by jamming the top of the bracket between the boat and platform or does it serve another purpose?
Thanks in advance.

[mjmaatman]

Thanks very much for the photos and explanation, now I understand the installation to the bracket. Smart thinking.
Can you please tell me what the purpose of the top bracket is that sits between the boat and the platform? It is used to support the top part of the plate by jamming the top of the bracket between the boat and platform or does it serve another purpose?
Thanks in advance.

I installed the top bracket that sits between the platform and hull to prevent the plastic plate from flexing and pulling away from the hull while running.

[theskunk]

Any bending at the bottom of the plate, that you've noticed?

[mjmaatman]

Any bending at the bottom of the plate, that you've noticed?

I don't think there is any significant deflection but it is hard to say because it is under water when underway. There is a little spray off the plate that shoots up about a foot above the platform when running but doesn't affect anything.

[Steve Schiewer]

How far is it sticking out? I am making the same thing basically right now and came across your thread.

Thanks for the help

Steve

[mjmaatman]

How far is it sticking out? I am making the same thing basically right now and came across your thread.

Thanks for the help

Steve

It sticks out approximately 1.5" on the side and 0.75" on the bottom.

[dwelsh]

Did you experiment with different size plates for best results to give you the dimensions above?

Thanks,

Dave

[mjmaatman]

Did you experiment with different size plates for best results to give you the dimensions above?

Thanks,

Dave

I initially had the plate sticking out about 1" further to the side. When I made it a bit smaller, I felt like the wave had more push. Beyond trimming off the 1" I have not experimented with any other shapes or sizes.

[dwelsh]

I've been scouring the internet for sometime to see what surf gate options are out there for the 211. I contacted wickedwakesurf.com to see if they have manufactured something for the 211 but haven't yet received a response. I've also looked at the ghetto surf plates and other custom builds but I'm really not sure what will give the best results. What I like about your design is that there's no drilling to the transom, something I'd prefer to steer clear of if possible.

The wickedwakesurf gate looks ok as well, but going by their website the product has been manufactured to suit the Malibu & Axis. I still think it could be used on the 211 but might require some modification as there is no anchor point on the back of the transom to hold it in place. I was thinking you could ratchet to the centre lifting ring but not sure if the gate would slide back with the pressure. I was thinking to adopt your design by making a HDPE block that sits between transom & platform to provide the required support. All just thoughts at the moment, nothing in production as yet.

Any comment or suggestions welcome.

[dwelsh]

Does anyone know of any other 211 owners who may have contacted Wicked Wakesurf Designs in Atlanta regarding a surf gate fit out? It's a little difficult to hook my boat up and drive it to Atlanta seeing I'm in Australia. I might try giving them a call tonight.

[dihrdskir]

Yeah that,s what id do welshy

[mjmaatman]

I've been scouring the internet for sometime to see what surf gate options are out there for the 211. I contacted wickedwakesurf.com to see if they have manufactured something for the 211 but haven't yet received a response. I've also looked at the ghetto surf plates and other custom builds but I'm really not sure what will give the best results. What I like about your design is that there's no drilling to the transom, something I'd prefer to steer clear of if possible.

The wickedwakesurf gate looks ok as well, but going by their website the product has been manufactured to suit the Malibu & Axis. I still think it could be used on the 211 but might require some modification as there is no anchor point on the back of the transom to hold it in place. I was thinking you could ratchet to the centre lifting ring but not sure if the gate would slide back with the pressure. I was thinking to adopt your design by making a HDPE block that sits between transom & platform to provide the required support. All just thoughts at the moment, nothing in production as yet.

Any comment or suggestions welcome.

I think that if you have some basic tools and ability to try to make your own NSS style surf plate you will end up with great results for very low cost. I initially put mine together in a few hours. I have done some testing and tweaking throughout the summer, but overall have been really pleased with the wave it creates. Over the winter I am considering designing a plate that stays on the boat and is retractable like others on this site have done. My goal is to keep the same attachment method. Lots of ideas bouncing around in my head, but I would rather be out surfing than building a new system right now.

[ScrewPusher]

I saw the Wicked Surf idea and built something 2 weeks ago that really helped my 211. It is similar to the wicked surf but having a side arm that is 15 degrees out from the side, and clamps to the boat's swim platform. Takes about 2 minutes to install. It cost me $10 for the cutting board, and 5.94 for 2 bolts and "T" nuts. It moved the sweet spot back 4-5 feet. I'll post pictures in the next day. Best 15.94 I've spent in a long time.

[dwelsh]

I think that if you have some basic tools and ability to try to make your own NSS style surf plate you will end up with great results for very low cost. I initially put mine together in a few hours. I have done some testing and tweaking throughout the summer, but overall have been really pleased with the wave it creates. Over the winter I am considering designing a plate that stays on the boat and is retractable like others on this site have done. My goal is to keep the same attachment method. Lots of ideas bouncing around in my head, but I would rather be out surfing than building a new system right now.

I'd rather be out surfing as opposed to building your new system too, that's a project for the winter. It sounds like you've done a fair bit of testing & tweaking over the summer to get the best results. From the pics that you posted you can clearly see an improvement in the wave so it's well worth the effort, not to mention the low cost to fabricate. It's coming out of winter and into spring here in Oz so time is on my side fortunately. Thanks for sharing your design and results for the 211, your post has really helped me. I'll be sure to return the favor once I have fabricated something myself. As far as being retractable are you thinking of installing actuators or manually be able to deploy & retract? For manual I was thinking that you could make the connection between the aluminium brackets permanent and make the connection from the Aluminium bracket to the HDPE adjustable so it can slide in and out. Not sure how that would work with the top supporting plate between the transom and platform as I imagine you will want the plate to slide out and down at the same time. Could you extend aluminium bracket further across HDPE plate so it provides more support and do away with the supporting bracket on top? Lots of ideas bouncing around in my head as well.

[dwelsh]

I saw the Wicked Surf idea and built something 2 weeks ago that really helped my 211. It is similar to the wicked surf but having a side arm that is 15 degrees out from the side, and clamps to the boat's swim platform. Takes about 2 minutes to install. It cost me $10 for the cutting board, and 5.94 for 2 bolts and "T" nuts. It moved the sweet spot back 4-5 feet. I'll post pictures in the next day. Best 15.94 I've spent in a long time.

Any pics would be greatly appreciated. I wonder which design provides the best results for the 211? The plate similar to NSS as designed by mjmaatman here or a design similar to Wicker Surf with the surf plate angled out the back? My initial thought is that mjmaatman's design would be best as this is very similar to the NSS, the angled surf gate seems to be more suited to Malibu's and the like. I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts on this.