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  • OxDoc
    • Aug 2015
    • 109

    • Oxford, OH

    • 2016 Nautique G23

    #1

    Buy holdover from a different dealer?

    If your local dealer doesn't have anything available, can you buy from a different or out of state dealer on a holdover. Just noticing lots of good deals online on 2015's and 2014's.
  • a0128
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • Jan 2014
    • 423

    • Lake Oswego, OR US

    • 1999 Pro Air Nautique

    #2
    Not sure what you are eluding to. Do you mean have your local dealer work with the out-of-state dealer on some sort of inventory trade? If so I am not sure either would have much interest. If you see something you like out of state why not go buy it. Most dealers have transportation contacts that will tow your boat to your house if you cannot drive and pick it up.

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    • OxDoc
      • Aug 2015
      • 109

      • Oxford, OH

      • 2016 Nautique G23

      #3
      To be specific I found a new 2014 holdover that's for sale in a different state. Will that dealer sell to me directly?
      Last edited by OxDoc; 09-07-2015, 06:52 PM.

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      • Tallredrider
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 1026

        • St. George, Utah

        • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

        #4
        I can't speak specifically for Nautique, but most other brands allow you to sell out of territory for older boats like you are looking at. Even then, some brands don't seem to enforce it much.

        Getting warranty work done may not come easily at your home dealership, but I bet buying that boat would not be a problem.

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        • JoeA
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jun 2014
          • 808

          • Chickamauga Lake TN

          • 2015 G23 550

          #5
          OXDOC

          Talk with your dealer and explain the situation. You'll need them for service and warranty work so work with them because that relationship will be more important than the one time sale dealership.

          What model boat are you looking at?
          2015 G23 550
          2013 Malibu 22MXZ

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          • OxDoc
            • Aug 2015
            • 109

            • Oxford, OH

            • 2016 Nautique G23

            #6
            G23

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            • swatguy
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2008
              • 1631

              • Midwest/ Northern IL

              • 2008 SANTE 210

              #7
              I don't believe roll overs apply to the territory rule. A 2014 I would imagine wouldn't have a territory rule. A 2015 even with 2016's dropping probably would fall under the restriction because it's still current year.

              Other than not having the inventory, is there any reason you would t want to buy that boat from your local dealer if they had it sitting on the lot? If you would buy that identical boat from them I would walk into my local dealer with the add and sit down with them and chat. Say jet I am looking at this boat. Say you guys are my local dealer so you know I'll have it serviced here, buy my parts here, and buy my accessories here yada yada...,,, Say "what can you do for me here"? I'd like you guys to get my business .... To me this gives them the opportunity to earn your business and if they can't beat the deal you find out of state they understand why you went elsewhere.

              Just my .02. You'd be surprised at what good places will do to earn that sale. Especially on a G
              Last edited by swatguy; 09-07-2015, 11:28 PM.

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              • Bevostein
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Jun 2008
                • 523

                • Frisco, TX

                • 2021 G23 2019 G23 (Sold) 2013 G25 550XR (Sold) 2009 216V (Sold)

                #8
                I believe I know which 2014 you are referring to. I called on it and that dealer would not discuss the boat with me since I'm in a territory. Are you in a dealer territory? There are areas that are "gray" areas and any dealer can sell to that area

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                • scottb7
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2198

                  • Carson City, Nevada

                  • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                  #9
                  My understanding is you can't buy a "new" boat from a dealer outside your territory. I am guess new is defined as being owned by dealer.

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                  • Evening Shade
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 1295

                    • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                    • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                    #10
                    I never knew these territory rules existed. I think it's crazy. There is no such thing in the auto industry. I was thinking of buying a hold over in the next year or so, but that may not be possible if my closest dealer doesn't have any hold-overs. They don't have any 2015 210s right now.
                    2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                    • OxDoc
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 109

                      • Oxford, OH

                      • 2016 Nautique G23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
                      I never knew these territory rules existed. I think it's crazy. There is no such thing in the auto industry. I was thinking of buying a hold over in the next year or so, but that may not be possible if my closest dealer doesn't have any hold-overs. They don't have any 2015 210s right now.
                      I agree. Their warranty is also lacking compared to the other tow boat companies. Crazy that the warranty doesn't fully transfer if you buy a slightly used boat. Parts only and no labor, come on.

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                      • Evening Shade
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 1295

                        • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                        • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                        #12
                        This is very disappointing for me to learn considering that I would like to buy a hold-over in the future. Another thing that shocks me is how people on this forum like to coddle or schmooze their dealer when it comes to service. Check me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked, I'm the customer not the dealer. I'm not saying that I would be a jerk or unreasonable, but I am the customer. Also, dealers get paid by the manufacturer for warranty work so they don't care who you bought the boat from. They get their money either way. At least that's how the auto industry works.
                        2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                        • Bevostein
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 523

                          • Frisco, TX

                          • 2021 G23 2019 G23 (Sold) 2013 G25 550XR (Sold) 2009 216V (Sold)

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
                          This is very disappointing for me to learn considering that I would like to buy a hold-over in the future. Another thing that shocks me is how people on this forum like to coddle or schmooze their dealer when it comes to service. Check me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked, I'm the customer not the dealer. I'm not saying that I would be a jerk or unreasonable, but I am the customer. Also, dealers get paid by the manufacturer for warranty work so they don't care who you bought the boat from. They get their money either way. At least that's how the auto industry works.
                          I agree with your sentiments and frustration. You're correct about the dealers getting paid by the manufacturer so why should they care. However, where it comes into play is on the "service" aspect and taking care of their customers that bought from them. As explained to me by a dealer, when they get backed up with service, warranty or not, the customers getting their boats serviced first are their customers. Its definitely not a first come, first served situation.

                          Given that boating season is short, people ofter want a quick turnaround on boat service. Being a purchaser from your dealer gives you a better chance at that.

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                          • swc5150
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 2240

                            • Eau Claire, WI

                            • MasterCraft Prostar

                            #14
                            A friend of mine owns a Nautique dealership, and confirmed with me that they can sell non-current boats out of territory. Shop away amigo!
                            '08 196LE (previous)
                            '07 196LE (previous)
                            2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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                            • dttheel
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 193

                              • Crozet, VA

                              • 2023 GS 22 2013 SAN 210 TE - sold

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OxDoc View Post
                              If your local dealer doesn't have anything available, can you buy from a different or out of state dealer on a holdover. Just noticing lots of good deals online on 2015's and 2014's.

                              I bought my boat last year (2013 holdover). I was in a similar situation, as I found the boat at a dealer slightly out of market. The dealer that had the boat didn't ever tell me that he couldn't sell me the boat. In fact he ended up quoting me a purchase price and we made a deal that I agreed with. After a little more reading, I learned that Nautique preferred for buyers to use their local dealer. So, I contacted the closest dealer to me (still 2 hours away) and talked to him about the boat in question and where it was. He ended up talking with the other dealer and working out an arrangement (he said they do this from time to time with other dealers). He ended up buying the boat from the original dealer and picking it up from him. I paid a fee for him going to get it. Then, I bought the boat from my closest dealer.

                              I am actually really glad it worked out the way it did. We ended up with a fuel line clogged up (twice) due to old fuel in the tank. The local dealer couldn't have been better about getting everything worked out as quickly as possible and with no questions asked. I have chosen to have them do the maintenance ever since even though it is a tow down to them because they have earned my trust and confidence. That wouldn't have happened without electing to work out an arrangement with the local dealer.

                              I echo what has been said above. Check with your local dealer (unless you have a reason not to) and see if they can work out something with the dealer who currently has the boat. If nothing else, they can confirm to you if you are being offered a great deal.

                              Good luck!
                              DTT
                              2013 SANTE 210

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