Couple notes on the '16 G23. (One might apply to 13-15)

[Armour783]

Just to let you guys know, after bringing my concern to the dealer, he stated that it was a design flaw overlooked when they switched to the bigger JL speakers in 2016 (not sure I fully believe him since the problem was happening to pre 2016 boats but whatever). Nautique "fixed" this by created new inserts that only allow the board racks to swivel to 135-145 degrees vs the current 180. This stops the boards short of hitting the speakers and allows you to gets the boards out easier.

I am requesting that the fix be applied to our boat. When/if this happens I'll post and update.

[mgs917]

Just to let you guys know, after bringing my concern to the dealer, he stated that it was a design flaw overlooked when they switched to the bigger JL speakers in 2016 (not sure I fully believe him since the problem was happening to pre 2016 boats but whatever). Nautique "fixed" this by created new inserts that only allow the board racks to swivel to 135-145 degrees vs the current 180. This stops the boards short of hitting the speakers and allows you to gets the boards out easier.

I am requesting that the fix be applied to our boat. When/if this happens I'll post and update.

Will 135-145 get the boards inside the boat enough for people who fold them in for boat houses? Or, do the ends of the boards still stick out on the sides?

[Tallredrider]

Will 135-145 get the boards inside the boat enough for people who fold them in for boat houses? Or, do the ends of the boards still stick out on the sides?

In addition, the 2016 board racks do not rotate all the way in the boat. So they will probably stick out farther than when they are in the out position, unless the boards are as wide as they are long. I never store my boards in the racks, or travel down the road with them there, so this does not seem like a big deal to me, but it may affect some of those who have a very short tow to the lake and just leave them in there.

[Armour783]

In addition, the 2016 board racks do not rotate all the way in the boat.

That's just it. My 2016 G23 board racks DO rotate a full 180° causing the board in the top slot to impact the speaker.

[Tallredrider]

That's just it. My 2016 G23 board racks DO rotate a full 180° causing the board in the top slot to impact the speaker.

No they don't rotate 180 degrees. They rotate quite a bit less, about 120 degrees, and at about 90 degrees, a board will hit the speaker if it is still in the rack unless you invert the forks. Unless you have older racks, then they will go pretty close to a full 180 degrees. I have no idea why Nautique thought this was an upgrade. Like the other poster noted, if he leaves his boards in the racks and had no tower speakers to worry about, he still could not rotate them far enough to get through a narrow garage door opening.

Here is mine pulled in as far as it will go. You can see how far a wakeboard will stick out to the side even when fully retracted.

[Armour783]

No, you're wrong. My 2016 G racks swivel almost a full 180, past where yours are in the picture. I've attached a picture

Here is the dealers exact email response when I questioned why the racks swivel a full 180 causing the boards to impact the speaker WELL before the locked inward position.

"Board racks, unfortunately that's a design flaw. Nautique has never run speakers this large and found it to be an issue with the board racks. Remembering now, later through the 2016 model year, they changed the swivels to only come in 145 degrees instead of 180. holding the boards at an angel that now clears the bigger speaker. I'm sure Nautique will cover the time to replace the swivel inserts if you're interested?

Let me know!"

I said yes I wanted the inserts installed. They are being installed this week along with the 25 hr service.

With my wakeboard in the bottom slot, boots down, I can rotate the racks almost a full 180 and have the board parallel with the boat, the tip not outside of the boat at all.

Looks pretty close to 180° to me, what do you think:

[Bevostein]

Looks like Tallrider's boat has the inserts your dealer told you about

[Tallredrider]

No, you're wrong. My 2016 G racks swivel almost a full 180, past where yours are in the picture. I've attached a picture

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Don't get testy. I am not picking on you, just answering the other guy's question about having his boards rotate all the way into the boat so he could minimize the width of the boat. We are both right. My boat was finished in February, and I can only assume that yours was made before that. I even indicated in my post that you might have older racks, which is true. It is now clear they made a mid-year change.

Back to picking on Nautique, the fix does not stop the boards from hitting my wetsounds speakers. And looking at it, I don't think it would stop boards from hitting the factory speakers either.

I don't think I have any insert, assuming I understand where the insert is placed. I will try and get another pic tonight.

[Armour783]

Maybe by insert they just mean a new swivel block that only goes to 135°? I don't know.

I think all of this could be avoided if they just went the way mastercraft has their racks, with stops at 0, 90, and 180.

All the way out for riding down the lake, all the way in for storing in the garage and towing, and 90° for grabbing boards out while out on the lake without impacting the speakers.

I don't see how Nautique didn't see this design flaw.

[Wake407]

Just took delivery of a '16 G23, yesterday. Previously had a 2014 G21. Very happy with the switch, so far, but I've been having issues getting the Surf Select Remote (not the Pebble) to pair. It just never seems to find the remote during the 30 second countdown. Anyone else experienced this?

[Armour783]

My dealer had paired my surf select switch before we took delivery of the boat. Sorry wish I could help more!

[Beg4wake]

On the board rack swivel discussion....My boards still clear the speakers when rotated in (I do have the updated 145* swivel insert), however, like Tall stated, it doesn't make much sense since the board ends still stick way out! Other than getting the boards in the racks is easier than hanging out over the side to put them in the slots, this swivel point doesn't serve much function. One nice thing about having board racks that swivel all the way in is for people who live on the lake and keep their boat in a lift on the dock. when pulling in, it's nice to be able to swing the racks in (with the boards in them, for convenience) to pull into the lift, otherwise the racks and boards would get caught on the cables that support the lift. The new rotating points make that even worse! I guess you just have to use the inward position to load the boards in and out, but will always have to remove the boards completely when pulling in/out of a lift/garage/covered carport, etc.

[NMNautique]

Just picked up my 2016 G23 and I have the same issue with my racks not rotating all the way in as well. I called and the only solution is to order the swivel repair kits for both sides and swap out which will then allow the racks to rotate all the way in. These swivel repair kits are available at nautiqueparts.com. Not sure if the $170 is worth it at this point but it is an option to definitely overcome this design flaw.

[Beg4wake]

Just picked up my 2016 G23 and I have the same issue with my racks not rotating all the way in as well. I called and the only solution is to order the swivel repair kits for both sides and swap out which will then allow the racks to rotate all the way in. These swivel repair kits are available at nautiqueparts.com. Not sure if the $170 is worth it at this point but it is an option to definitely overcome this design flaw.

technically...you have the new version. The original swivels would come all the way in, they were changed to ones that stopped short of all the way in bc of clearance issues when a board was in the top slot.