Please explain if you could...............

[cjtpilot]

Ok, Nautique has the 200 and 200ob, sport 200, 210,230 and the G series. I understand the 200's and the 200 sport, but if you wanted a wakeboard/surf only boat why would you consider the 210 or 230? I would think you would just go to a G series in effect making the 210 and 230 pointless. Can anybody explain what advantages the 210 and 230 would have over a G? Besides price, however after all said and done is there really that much of a price gap if any between the two.

[NautiqueJeff]

Price, Beam (width), and personal preference.

Also weight (for towing purposes).

[wakerider107]

21' lake restrictions, garage/storage space, much less money.
Many first time nautique or wake boat owners get a 210.

[hoss33]

The price gap on a 230 to a G23 in my area is a good $25,000-30,000 so not really a negligable gap. To me and my family a 230 is all we need, I have ridden G's and no doubt a better wakeboard wake and a lot of fun to ride but just cannot justify the extra cost. As I have gotten older I have started surfing more which the 230 puts out an amazing surf wave and more than enough wakeboard wake for me to still get back there and have a great time!

[Wayward]

I would say there is a HUGE price gap. Starting MSRP on the 230 is $35k less than the G23. And the 210 starts at $30K less than the G21.

30-35k is a really big difference IMO. Most options are similarly priced, but a couple options for the 210 and 230 are cheaper as well. The M series studio elite package is 2k cheaper in the 210 and 230. Little things like that only make the gap bigger. Not to mention, you can run one engine tier lower with the lighter boat. Pricing them against each other can end up with a 50k MSRP gap pretty fast.

[swatguy]

It's a bigger price gap than you think. As mentioned. In the mid 20's- 30's here for a G compared to the 210-230 counterparts.

Drivability Both the 230 and 210 are much more nimble to drive compared to their counterparts. A G21 would be a handful on my small 200acre private lake community.

Towability. Tge G's are massive. Even the 21 is massive on the trailer. A 230-210 tows way easier and doesn't mandate all the extra tow necessities.

Styling. While the G may perform. It is definitely a uniquely styled boat. People still love classic looks and classic styling. Hence the popularity still of the 210-230

[Beg4wake]

Agreed...Price plays the biggest part. Plus some people just prefer the 210 from old school days. A lot of wake skaters love that wake. And I happen to know a family that still does a lot of slalom skiing and that's why they chose the 210 because they can still do so behind it!

[theskunk]

Did anybody mention the price gap yet? just checking...

[Nautiquehunter]

Not everybody needs or wants a boat the size of a G.

[nautiques4life]

G is too much boat for me. Love riding behind it, didn't have the coin or desire to buy that much more boat AND a new truck to be able to tow it. For the size of my crew the 230 is always plenty. Stepping up from the 210 alone was a big deal for me, my old suburban tows the 230 okay but not great, no way I would tow a G through the desert with it. Finally considering its usually me wiping down the boat solo at the end of the day, that's way more fiberglass and upholstery to wipe down and clean up, I was surprised how going to the 230 takes way more time than my 210 did. Love my 230, if I already owned a bigger truck or all my friends actually still rode or the kids were bigger a G would be awesome- right now it's just more than I ever need and too much $.

[jonsquatch]

Agreed...Price plays the biggest part. Plus some people just prefer the 210 from old school days. A lot of wake skaters love that wake. And I happen to know a family that still does a lot of slalom skiing and that's why they chose the 210 because they can still do so behind it!

These days we routinely have as many, if not more, wakeskate sets than wakeboard sets on my boat, sometimes we have people who only wakeskate and several of them prefer the 210 wake over the G wake. A clean, mid calf, not overly wide wake with a defined lip for good pop is a lot of fun for wakeskate.

We also keep skis in the locker in the event someone wants to give that a go, and its decent for a recreational skier. This past weekend we had a guy wakeskate, wakeboard, slalom, barefoot and surf (in that order) and we also had someone ski with doubles so we covered all the bases (except kneeboard, that thing is just too big to take on a 210 often). With the front tank full plus an extra 400lbs up front, empty in the rear and the hydro gate in ramp it skis pretty good above 32 and I can just get up to decent barefoot speed. It could be done on a G as well but the further up the spectrum you get the more compromise there is.

Also consider storage, the G's sit higher on the trailer and are harder to fit under the garage door, which for some would mean the boat either has to sit in the weather all the time, or go to a storage lot where it might have to sit in the weather rather than just being able to sneak it into the average 2 car garage.

[scottmele2]

I have a 210 and there is nothing that boat doesn't do well including slolom ski, pull tubes, and work as a family vacation resort. That boat handles so much better than a G and the throttle response is day and night compared to a G. I appreciate all the boats in the Nautique family, but the 210 is the best all around. I have plenty of truck, an empty pole barn for storage, and could afford the more expensive boats, I just like the 210s.

[Kenv]

35K can buy a lot of gas for a 210......lol

[Laptom]

Yep. Same story here. Love the G's, but they are too much boat for us. Too heavy, too much fuel, need for a bigger engine, storage, etc. I love the 230 and it's wakeboard wake. Good enough for me and I don't use the rear ballast... Surf wake is awesome, as good and perhaps better than a G.

I find the line up of Nautique really good and clear. Not too much boats and all of them serving a piece of the market.

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[Xcz504d]

I have a 2014 230, love the wake, I am a wake snob, and have ridden other boats (x45's, 210's, fs44's, fs33's), I have the opportunity to ride G's, I just never had. All I know is my personal preference, and what others who have ridden say, my wake is solid, but the fs 44 has a mean push. I personally don't like the fs 44 wake, I feel there is way too much push, but I ride surf, not skim, and I ride goofy, so I know how to tune my wake, the other captains may not. The Centurion dealer gives us demo rides every so often (we have a good wake surf community), and they have said, the biggest wake they have ever seen is from a G23 slammed with lead.

I know that gives you a lot of information that doesn't really tell you much, but the biggest takeaway I can say, is no matter what you choose, tuning your wake is the key, and each hull is different, and not everyone knows how to tune the wake for YOU.

EDIT: In my 230, I run stock pro ballast + 500-800 pounds on the floor, depending on people weight, the further back the weight, the better. 1 person on the swim platform is better than 300 pounds on the floor. Too much rear weight creates a weird starboard lip, you either reduce the counter weight and let it slightly lean, or reduce the weight.