What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

[fsuindustries]

Me and a partner are going to be buying a boat this next week hopefully, if we can figure out which one to get. Here are the deailts. I have had a 92 Ski Nautique loved it now am getting my first V-Drive. We only Wakeboard, Wakeskate, and sometimes Tube. I myself would say I am a Intermediate Rider. The 211 and the 210 are same models(Team Edition) . If anyone has pics of WAKES please post. Going crazy can't decide.

211 Pros: Partner thinks that the seating is rummier, and more comfritable, Like the walkway to the back.

211 Cons : I thought the 211 felt to crwded, I didn't like the removable seat in the rear, we both liked the full storage and sundeck on motor, and the most of all I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE WAKE!!!

210 Pros: Wake is suppost to be better, I like the full Wrap-Around Seating, Floor space in the middle.

210 Cons: Partner thinks it feels like a family boat, and partner also thinks it feels more confining.

[DRAGON88]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

Just my 2 cents:

210: Hardcore wakeboard boat, small, little storage. I think of it like a high end sports car. It does one thing and does a **** good job of it. However it won't be good for hauling the family's luggage to the airport. Storage is limited. It's like a Porsche 997.

211: More family oriented, more storage, puts out a good wake, also can put out a decent ski wake (it's main selling point.) It reminds me more of say a sporty 4 door sedan, (Say an Audi S4) it's extremely functional. It's not a purpose built wakeboarding machine, but it does an above average job at pumping out a wake. And it's still practical for larger crews and it's wake will be close to the 210 but not equal. (It will do an excellent job but the S4 just ain't going to be outperforming the 997 on the track, not without some serious modifications anyways.) It is dynamic and at home in most watersporting events.

However since you stressed that wakeboarding is your prerogative, I'd go for the 210. It is still one of the boats that all new boats are measured by.

All that said you still need to take both cars... erm. boats through a few laps on the track to see which one really fits your nees better. This means bringing out as much weight as you are going to really run when you go wakeboarding. Then decide which one is best for you and your partner.

[dabigkahuna]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

I've got a 211TE and I love it. I have had several comments about how good my wake is. I normally put a 750# Fat Sack in the back and sometimes a 250# in the front walkway (depending on how many people in the boat). Is it as good as a 210? I ask that same question all the time. I've heard that some of the Nautique Team prefer the 211 over the 210, but I don't know.

What I can say is that the 211 is totally user friendly. I can load LOTS of stuff in it, take the wife for a set, teach a little girl how to wakeboard, and then ride with the boyz, no problem. The 211 has a more rampy wake that is very easy to get used to, the 210 has a really aggressive wake which will boot you (sometimes good, sometimes bad).

I would say that if you are not a pro level rider, you probably won't appreciate the 210's wake. Both boats are masterpieces. My 2 cents.

[SGY]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

Go drive them and ride both. Take three or four friends with you and some gear. This will give you a good idea of how the boat will perform in conditions similar to what you will experience after you buy the boat. If you guys are serious about boarding then buy the 210. If you guys are happy riding at your current level and just want to have a great time on the water with friends and family, then the 211 will fit the bill.

Good luck.

[ag4ever]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

I have a 210, and from what I have seen it is the only boat that puts out a steep wake, Period.

Now do you want the 210 wall of water?

The 211 does put out a great wake as do the BUs and MCs, they are just not a 210 wake, if that matters to you. You will never get the 210 to put out a ski wake, just won't happen.

As for the interior, I liken it to you sit in a 210, you sit on a 211. Personally I like the 210 the best EXCEPT the wake. I wish I could get a 211 that looks and feels like a 210. As I am not a pro rider and will never be, I don't particularly like the wall of water wake I have, but I can tune it to be less wall like. I do however love my surf wake.

When I bought my 210, there was no 211, so I did not have a hard decision, but now looking back, I should have gotten a 216, but the wife really wanted the space of a v-drive, so we probably would have gotten a 211 if it was available.

Is that confusing enough.

[Mikeski]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

I would say get the 211 for one reason, wakeplate. The combination of wakeplate and 3 ballast tanks allow almost endless possibilities for shaping the wake. The biggest mistake most 211 owners make is filling the belly tank, it flattens the wake out too much. The wake is actually much better running the belly 2/3 full. After I figured that out I took all of the lead out and now I just run stock ballast. It's not huge but it's a good boot. I took out one of the local pro's that worked at the local Nautique dealership and he said that after too many years of hard riding he prefers the slightly more forgiving 211 wake. Understand we are splitting hairs here and that you will most likely be happy with either boat. For what it's worth I water skied behind BKHallpass' 210 and did not mind the wake at all (34mph/28off), couldn't tell much difference between his 210 and my 211 but I am not too picky either. I would not recommend waterskiing behind either boat at 22off.

[scheersound]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

I have a 06 211 and went through the same thing wich one to buy! either way you go you will be happy and what the previous post said only fill the belly tank 2/3 this will make the wake steeper and not as rounded off on the lip if you go with a 211, but with that said beginners like the rounded off wake. The 211 is a great boat all the way around. The biggest difference between the two is the 211 has a wider wake than the 210. Good luck

[jonfo]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

fsuindustries, i owned a 1995 210 (Super Sport) for 6 yrs, and ridden in and behind a 2002 210 TE, and now own a 2005 211 TE. I ride intermediate-advanced with about 5 inverts/spins. There is only a 2" difference in the beam between a 210 and 211, so I dont notice much difference between the wakes, but some say the 210 is much steeper. I think they are similar with the 210 being slightly steeper and slightly narrower. That being said the 211 is an entirely new hull with many enhancements over the 210. The 210 has the classic old school look which i really actually like, but when it came down to where i would spend my money i went with the 211.

210 pros:
- smaller, lighter, narrower 91" beam, requires less weight to enlarge wake
- slightly steeper wake if you like that
- has full rear seat.
210 cons
- finicky about weight placement, easy to wash out one side if weight not balanced
- little storage space
- interior feels small after being in 211
- dated (but classic) design
- rear seat faces forward, so not good if watching behind boat, but good for cruising
211 pros
- storage space
- swivel drivers chair
- wake plate. slalom mode for surfing and cruising, wakeboard mode for wakeboarding
- cost less than 210
- port walk through is great place for extra sac when surfing, cooler, wet items such as wet suit, vests.
- i think it will hold its resale better since it is more universal than 210
- removable rear seat is nice, we rarely use rear seat unless we have full load of people, or cruising.
- tower is lighter and easier to fold down, this is important if you fold tower down often.
- huge swim platform
- snap out carpet.
- with jump seat next to driver there is a lot of rear facing seating
- ride through chop/waves/doubleup is smoother and more solid
- with the cooler door in the center walkthrough, if you throw away the stupid cooler and take the door off it makes for nice access to the storage area and lets the sub vent better.
211 cons
- heavier than 210
- port walk through limits storage/additional balast on port side
- no deck color option, only white (210 doesnt have this either)

the 211 also has probably another 20 little enhancments over the 210 that are hard to appreciate until you own it and ride in it. if i was to buy another 210 i would get a 2003 since they havent changed much since then, unless you like the newer tower.

[fsuindustries]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

Well I took the 211 out last week didn't ride behind it because the lake isn't open this month during weekend for wake, anyways rode behind the 210 today with factory ballast. I loved it, I had a 1992 Sport Nautique before. So we will get a red and grey 210 Team this weekend, Thanks for all of your input.

[AbunDiga909]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

buy 2 boats

[scheersound]

RE: What should I buy a SV211, or Super Air 210

congrats on your new boat!!

[ag4ever]

buy 2 boats

I have tried to convience the wife that I need a 196 in addition to the 210, and she just tells me see needs a corvette first.

[AbunDiga909]

It cracks me up every time how you old guys refer to them as "THE wife," not "my wife," as if you own them or bought them in bulk with friends at Costco.

[therev1]

Maybe you should consider another brand!

[ag4ever]

Once you get married, you will know when they are "my wife" and when they are "the wife"

Kinda the difference between I wear the pants, and she is letting me wear them.