Surf Setting on 2015 G21

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  • Andrew@OrlandoNautiques
    • Jul 2014
    • 47

    • Orlando, FL

    • 2014 Nautique G21

    #16
    Originally posted by ScooterMcgavin View Post
    That looks nice Andrew, where did you put the lead at midship? NSS fully deployed (0)?
    And no extra weight up front at all?
    I have the lead under the port bench seat storage. No extra weight up front, NSS at 0

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    • mlsurfco
      • Oct 2015
      • 191

      • Minnesota

      • 2017 G23

      #17
      Will try that on friday when my lead gets here and report back findings!

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      • mlsurfco
        • Oct 2015
        • 191

        • Minnesota

        • 2017 G23

        #18
        Still playing w exact placement but put 350 lb of lead in the port corner and 200 lbs in the bow lockers. Port wave went from good to great imo. Picture below w 2 people in the boat.
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        • ScooterMcgavin
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1478

          • Florida

          • 2014 SAN 210 TE

          #19
          That does look a little longer, smaller but longer. How about moving that lead from port corner to port bench? We put a 400 sac in the port locker yesterday and tried moving people up front to see. But the wave didn't get much longer, it was definitely better with the sac in the port bench, but we have seen longer waves out there so still trying to dial it in.
          2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
          2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
          1989 Sport Nautique

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          • RaggedEdge
            • May 2014
            • 8

            • Austin


            #20
            That does look nice Andrew. Where is the lead placed, what NSS setting and is that photo with or without your 750 bag?

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            • AcerMD
              • Mar 2013
              • 39

              • Calgary, AB


              #21
              Anyone comment on the ideal set up for goofy (starboard) side?

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              • F725
                Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                • Feb 2013
                • 381

                • Minnesota

                • 2018 G21

                #22
                These shots are taken from the same weight set-up, same speed, just different NCRS and NSS settings. One mellow, easy learning wave and one nice steeper wave with a great lip for boosting airs.

                Full Port, 3/4 Starboard, Speed at 11.1. No belly weight (or very little, one rider in the bow). NCRS and NSS anywhere from 1-3 to get the perfect wave. Super long, super clean with a hard lip.

                I haven't seen any benefit for size and length of wave from running full on everything and adding additional. Just burns more gas. Maybe it gets steeper but it seems like I can make the wave too steep with NCRS and NSS with my weight settings.





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                • ScooterMcgavin
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1478

                  • Florida

                  • 2014 SAN 210 TE

                  #23
                  That looks really nice F725!
                  2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
                  2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
                  1989 Sport Nautique

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                  • brookdaddy
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 4

                    • Sioux Falls

                    • 2014 G21

                    #24
                    Originally posted by F725 View Post
                    These shots are taken from the same weight set-up, same speed, just different NCRS and NSS settings. One mellow, easy learning wave and one nice steeper wave with a great lip for boosting airs.

                    Full Port, 3/4 Starboard, Speed at 11.1. No belly weight (or very little, one rider in the bow). NCRS and NSS anywhere from 1-3 to get the perfect wave. Super long, super clean with a hard lip.

                    I haven't seen any benefit for size and length of wave from running full on everything and adding additional. Just burns more gas. Maybe it gets steeper but it seems like I can make the wave too steep with NCRS and NSS with my weight settings.




                    I tried your surf settings this past weekend and got by far the best wave yet out of our g21. Much longer pocket than with full ballast and had a nice curl. What NCRS and NSS setting do you use for the steeper wave with a harder lip?

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                    • FunkyBunch
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 40

                      • United States

                      • 2016 G21

                      #25
                      I tried these settings this weekend as well and had great results. I was expecting more bow rise with all the weight in the rear but it was great with no issues. I ran it with NCRS at 1 and NSS at 3 and really liked the results.

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                      • F725
                        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 381

                        • Minnesota

                        • 2018 G21

                        #26
                        brookdaddy, I've adjusted NCRS and NSS depending on rider ability and quantity of people in the boat so I've yet to really settle on one setting but I guess that's one of the biggest benefits of NSS and NCRS anyway.

                        According to the pro wakesurfer that gave me the weighting suggestion... he said he adjust the settings until the wash and the peak of the wave meet to form a defining edge or lip. Tough to explain in words I guess.

                        But I've been getting a steep wave for our surfer crowd by bringing the NCRS up to 3 or 4 and NSS up to 3. Anything higher on the port wave and it shortened up too much but at those settings it was much steeper than I like to ride. For the surf style guys I've also bumped up the speed another click or two and that'll bring some length back.

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                        • Waderson
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 2

                          • Shawnigan Lake BC Canada

                          • 2014 G21

                          #27
                          I currently run my boat (2014 G21) with full stock ballast and have extra 500lb sacks in each of the rear lockers for my starboard setup. For the port side I transfer the 500lb sack from the starboard side to the port side locker (1000lbs). This seems to work extremely well and am left to wonder if I should go even bigger.

                          Speed seems optimal at 11.1 - 11.3 with NCRS & NSS at 3-4.

                          I've tried extra weight in the bow but it's been my experience that my G don't like it.


                          Last edited by Waderson; 06-27-2016, 03:42 PM.

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                          • F725
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 381

                            • Minnesota

                            • 2018 G21

                            #28
                            Waderson, your set up may work well. I haven't tried adding the extra weight with water but have had guys move around the boat to imitate the extra ballast. I haven't been successful but maybe I didn't experiment enough. Next time you're out, see what the difference is between your set-up and just using rear (heavier on the port side for both waves seems like it works). I'm interested to hear more results and favorite set-ups.

                            This photo was taken from the back of our boat level with the walk thru. (a bit of a crafty camera angle but the wave is pretty big none the less).

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                            • RaggedEdge
                              • May 2014
                              • 8

                              • Austin


                              #29
                              I have a 2016 G21 and I put 280# in the port rear locker and 120# in the port bow and it really cleaned up the port wake. NSS 0, NCRS 3, 11.6 MPH and all ballast at 100%. When I wakeboard I run 50% in the port ballast and and the others full and the wake is even and great. Still playing with starboard surf wake it looks like 50-70% full on the port ballast will give the best wake.

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                              • Waderson
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 2

                                • Shawnigan Lake BC Canada

                                • 2014 G21

                                #30
                                Nice looking wave F725! I too ride a Walker! I'll take some pics tonight and post them up.

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