Need feedback on a great crossover

[adamantium]

Hi, new to this forum and have read just about everything I can find on used crossovers. I'm 42 with a family and interested in a crossover that skis well, but need WB for the kids. Plus surfing sounds like a lot of fun. For now I really want to advance my slalom skills, as I am a beginner headed into intermediate. I've looked at several crossover options in the 40-50K range, and recently have been looking at a 2010 216V, 2007 216, 2008 SV211, 2008 MC X15, and a 2008 BU VTX with Diamond Hull. Honestly from what I've researched the VTX keeps coming up as a great ski wake and surf wake which is rare. I realize the BU is not the build quality of Nautique or MC. Especially interested in experience with the 216V slalom wake. I've read all the other 216V posts, interested in some updated advice from this audience.

[Bulldog39042]

As an ex tournament slalom skier, I was looking a good wakeboarding/surfing for the kids that would still have a decent slalom wake. But since now I am mostly focused on family time, I was willing to give up a bit on slalom to get one boat that could do it all. The 216V is "very good" at each sport, but will not be the best at any of them. With the factory ballast and some trial and error you can get a "very good" wakeboard wake and a "very good" surf wake out of a 216V. For surfing it is a bit temperamental with the weight distribution, so we have to adjust people and speed a bit, but I can consistently build a wake that anyone can easily surf with no rope. When slalom skiing, I generally run the boat @ 32-34MPH. At this speed, there is a definite "bump" crossing the wake, but I have yet to find ANY v-drive that doesn't. If you want a good all around family boat that has a "good enough" wake, the 216V is it.

And this one is in your price range :

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...v-team-edition

[Bevostein]

I agree with everything BD said and I also have a 216V for sale. I was the only one in the family who skied which is why we got ours. But I ended up catching the surfing bug. If you plumb it for ballast in the back it puts out a very good surf and wakeboard wave. Gas consumption is easy on the wallet and it drives like a sports car. Mine is listed at Buxton in Dallas. Has a few extras on it like a surf pipe, seadek on swim platform/transom/walkthrough steps, rack for slalom ski and staps on bimin for surfboards and gear. My hours are higher than others on market but previous owner was a doc who parked it at a party cove and idled it to keep stereo going.

PM with questions

http://www.buxtonmarine.com/web/used...exas/25331078/

[adamantium]

Thanks Bulldog39042, I see you owned an SV211 before your 216V. How did that slalom wake compare?

[Bulldog39042]

The wakes are very, very similar. I pretty much stay 22off in the open water. @28off, both have a pretty good "dip" when crossing the wake. To me, the biggest difference is in the wakeboard wake. The 216V seems to have a little sharper edge on the wake, making it easier to get height off of.

The 216V also feels to have more room with the little subtle changes in the interior. The FCT3 tower is EASY to lower and raise, even with speakers vs the older tower. Not to mention the massive shade the Z5 Bimini provides

[swatguy]

I would agree with all the above. If you can swing a 216v that's the right call. The second option at a better price pint would be the SV 211.

I would rite off the VTX. It's so much smaller than any of the boats listed. However it's a great 3 sport event boat. Slalom wakes area out as good as it gets from a v drive. If the 20ft category works for you, the 2006 and up X2 may be the ticket.
The MC X15 is a good choice as well if you are thinking MC. That's the boat you would want. Personally the X15 feels and drives like a much bigger boat than it is. The 216v drives more like a "ski boat ". The x15 will handle some rougher water a bit better but I think the 216v outperforms it in the ski side. I also think in the era you are looking Nautique is much more user friendly than the MC regarding switches and electronics. Also feel they had bit more creature comforts than the MC boats.

[BoardSkier]

While Bulldog has a nice boat and is an ex tourn skier, as another ex tourn skier, you need to think about how far you want to advance in slalom. A wake board board and a ex tourn skier probably ok. As a beginner going to intermediate, may have problems, both in style and safety.

Beginning skiers tend to start the carve, pull, let up at the wake, and pull again on the outside. Not real good form. Develop speed on the inside and set up for the bouy on the outside. Crossing a big wake will cause you to slow, just natural. If you hit the big wake and dont know how to cross, could go out the front.

May want to consider a wake board boat for family and some light skiing. No courses. Join a local slalom club with a slalom tow boat for the serious work. Just my .02.


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[adamantium]

Appreciate the responses here...BoardSkier good point...I do want to advance and safety is always a concern. Can't do it yet, but my goal is to cut hard across the wake. I plan to ski almost every weekend for next two summers. SN 200 would be ideal (from what I've heard), but $$$. I've heard the MC x14DD is a great boat as well. Could get into a 07 216DD also.

[Nautiquehunter]

07 and newer 210 Excellent wake board and surf wake and not a bad slalom wake when set up correctly at 31mph or better. No boat does it all except maybe the 200 sport.
With the 210 you will get 2 great wakes instead of 3 just OK wakes.

[HS]

Adam, sent you a PM for my experience.