Tough Memorial Day

[SJP]

Well guys it was a fun weekend but my new to me G23 is going into the shop. I have had it out on two days getting used to operation, ballast, NSS, tab etc etc. I think I am ready. Load up my crew and brave the holiday traffic on the lake. Go to the gas dock and the boat gas fill lines appear to be vapor locked. Yes both of them. I know how to fill stuff with gas so this was pretty awesome as my friends look at me in disbelief. 20 minutes later I have taken some little plastic tab out of the fuel line a foot down in the break of a hose clamp. Gas starts to rush in (50 gallons). We are in business. Down the lake we go. Water is big - I put some ballast to smooth ride. Alright let's surf. Profile set. Boat sets this cabin cruiser planing crap wake. I jerk with the settings. Things are getting weird. Reboot boat. The girls are getting impatient - here have a beer. NSS / plate does not appear to be doing a thing. Manage to a least brute force a few rides - loading people on one side and turning the boat to clean up the wake a bit. It was brutal on a boat of this caliber after all of what I know it can do. Day is not a total wreck let's head back to the launch. Drain ballast - back to dock mode - speed control off. Boat caps out at 12 / 13 mph and will not plane. RPM is spooling out crazy. Something is jacked. Lay off throttle no errors, gauges look good. We are 30 miles from home. So proceed to set off a crap wake - yes I was that guy on a holiday. Fellow boaters coming back to port are pissed. It was brutal. Sorry for the long read I wanted you guys to feel my pain.

1. How do you manually know what your ballasts are doing?
2. Is there a good way to really reset things?

[shag]

And this is why I don't like everything in one gauge/screen... Sorry you had the issues man... Dang...

[enzo thecat]

I only understood about half of that.

[SJP]

I only understood about half of that.

Yep - that pretty much summed up my day on the water with my boat. Kind of stressing with what the service / dealer is going to come back with since it is a used boat.

[nohlan_4]

I feel your pain, I blew both exhaust manifolds on mine in 10hrs of operation because the dealer didn't service a secondary strainer and there not covering it on warranty because of "neglect". Go figure....

[Nautiquehunter]

What are people going to do with these cloned spaceships in 5 years when there is no warranty,

[jesam]

I have a rare 2013 SAN 210 with analog gauges and wouldn't trade it for LINC if you were to pay me for the swap.

[lucky7t]

I'm confused. Did you remove something from your fuel fill lines? And what do you mean crap wake ?

[Quinner]

I only understood about half of that.

LOL, me too.

Did you leave your perfect pass on, perhaps why you were limited on speed. Sounds like you need to read the operators manual again (or for the first time

[SJP]

LOL, me too.

Did you leave your perfect pass on, perhaps why you were limited on speed. Sounds like you need to read the operators manual again (or for the first time

I hear you. Maybe I was a little too confident going the day. I dig the boat. In back to dock I believe if you have speed control on it would be 25 on my profile at least. It was just weird how boat would not plane and if I was hitting a preset PP limit the RPMs on the boat should not climb as I apply more throttle.? At any rate you are right I do need to learn what and where the ballast fill from. I am going to see how I can run it on a hose(I realize the ballast will not fill but just from mechanical check I can do this on my other stuff). Also get comfortable with the aux bags on port and starboard. I have not even used those yet. Appreciate the feedback.

[Quinner]

If you throttle with PP at it's set speed it will accelerate momentarily and then quickly decelerate back to the set speed. If you run on the hose do not put the boat in gear, certain points on the driveshaft are water lubricated and can be damaged when run dry. If you purchased from a CC dealer shame on them for not teaching you how to use everything.

[SJP]

I'm confused. Did you remove something from your fuel fill lines? And what do you mean crap wake ?

So basically I used a tank of gas over a two day period just taking the boat out by myself thinking I had things down. I go to fill up and the pump would get basically shutoff because gas would not realease into the tank on either side. I know this sounds weird. It was messing with me. On the port side of the boat when you open the hatch about a foot down under the gas fill there is a hose clamp and like a hard to explain valve that I assume is emissions like cars have. Bottom line is I needed to get gas into the boat. When I opened the line - undid the hose clamp on one side gas was able to fill tank on the other side. Now I would not leave boat like this - fumes etc etc. I put the hose clamp back together but pulled a plastic plate out of the valve so I could refuel the boat. (I know some of you guys are cringing right now). It was 100 degrees in the dessert. I was going to have a mutiny.

Part 2 - crap wake. You know when a cabin cruiser starts to plane. It is not a crisp wake but rather a rolling pile of whitewash. Equal on both sides. I have seen the boat cut a nice surf wake and this was not it. 6 people in boat 3 of them gals. Boat was not nearly loaded.

At anyrate - taking boat in and preparing for the worst hoping to be told I just do not know how to use my boat.

[72Miles]

One thought that could be causing the crap wake and the high rev/low speed. Make sure you haven't cracked or pitted the prop. Cavitation could cause both I bet.

[Dandy21]

I agree, I believe you may have still had your speed control functioning at surf speed. Occasionally we had not changed the speed and tried to head back and it locked in at the set surf speed. I don't believe the RPM continued to climb once the speed was locked, but like stated it will rev past and then drop back in to the speed. Sometimes with the LincII screen buttons, they really have to be PUSHED to recognize what you want it to do. Did you verify that the screen stated "Back to Dock"

Regarding understanding your ballast. If you open up the floor and engine hatch, you will see 3 pumps with hoses that go in one side of each pump and out the other side. If you follow the input side (left side, looking at the pump head), you will follow it to a valve in the bottom of the boat. This is where the pumps both fill from and empty through being reversible pumps. The motor/pump spin one way to fill and spin the other to empty. When your ballast is full, it will overflow through the coordinating overflow port on the side of the boat. To empty, there is unfortunately no visual indicator to let you know its empty (this is why I actually prefer a separate drain pump, to drain through the side so you can SEE it's done pumping). That stated, the pumps will change their pitch when they are empty, it will become a much higher pitch when the pump runs empty.

Regarding the fuel line, the part you are describing could very well be a check valve. If the check valve was locked up, it could prevent the fuel from filling. I don't recall if there is a check valve in the fuel line of the G23s.

On a side note, I agree with Nautiquehunter and jesam that the tech in these boats may become troublesome in the future. Time will tell. The auto industry has developed very dependable tech, but this is not the auto industry. Marine does not have the quantity for build, working out the bugs and keeping the cost down. In addition, its a much different environment. If you read the article that Jeff posted, it seems that Supreme is doing very well in the industry building a quality boat that performs on the water while keeping costs "in-line" due to the simplicity of switches and gauges. Sorry...of topic I know.

[Tallredrider]

It sure sounds like something is malfunctioning with the surf mode. When you decide to surf and select 'surf' on the user settings, that activates the NSS and also limits how fast you can go. It is called Surf mode. It sounds like your NSS is not working when you did that, but that surf mode would not turn off so you could not go any faster. Just guessing, but the dealer should have given you a demo before you purchased and this problem should have been discovered.

I've never heard of the tank being unable to fill, that is just strange. On my 2015, there is a check valve on the fuel lines, but I have not known it to lock up.

Did you try to switch sides while surfing, and did the screen show that it switched? How many hours are on this boat?