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  • nyryan2001
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1993

    • Lake Anna


    #46
    Yep, Now this is what I am saying, Nautique engineers could better dial in the auto NCRS to make it better:

    1. NCRS and set speed need to communicate. The desired auto NCRS setting "should " kick in at 10-15% under the desired setting. Meaning it stays at NCRS 0 till you hit 21.5 if your set speed is 23mph. You don't need to drag the hull at 16mph causing a slower launch if your set speed is 23mph. Or at 10.5 for 11.5mph for surfing. This means there is less time at NCRS 5 wasting fuel and casing slower launches when ballasted.

    2. Enable auto NCRS for surfing. Currently there is none, only for 18mph+ wake speeds. You drag NCRS 3-5 all the time while surfing, and putting back to a downed surfer.


    3. NCRS goes to zero at anything over 25.1 mph regardless of settings.
    Last edited by nyryan2001; 07-03-2016, 06:36 PM.
    2019 G23 450
    2014 G23 550
    2013 G23 450
    2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
    2007 Yamaha AR210

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    • DocPhil
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Jan 2016
      • 447

      • Midwest

      • 2014 G21; yamaha superjet

      #47
      Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
      Yep, Now this is what I am saying, Nautique engineers could better dial in the auto NCRS to make it better:

      1. NCRS and set speed need to communicate. The desired auto NCRS setting "should " kick in at 10-15% under the desired setting. Meaning it stays at NCRS 0 till you hit 21.5 if your set speed is 23mph. You don't need to drag the hull at 16mph causing a slower launch if your set speed is 23mph. Or at 10.5 for 11.5mph for surfing. This means there is less time at NCRS 5 wasting fuel and casing slower launches when ballasted.

      2. Enable auto NCRS for surfing. Currently there is none, only for 18mph+ wake speeds. You drag NCRS 3-5 all the time while surfing, and putting back to a downed surfer.


      3. NCRS goes to zero at anything over 25.1 mph regardless of settings.
      So as long as you cruise back above 25 mph then you should be okay and it eliminates this issue?

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      • Tallredrider
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 1026

        • St. George, Utah

        • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

        #48
        The NCRS oddly retracts when you get under a certain speed. I notice it deploy when I am struggling to get on plane, at about 13 MPH, then raise when I get over 20. I am pretty sure this may be happening even when in manual mode for me, if it is doing anything at all.

        Why it cannot be down from the start is beyond me.

        The lake is probably going to be a retardfest today, so I probably won't get a chance to play with it in good conditions, but I still think the manual NCRS doesn't work at all on my boat. And 2016 has no gauge that I can find. I guess I am just supposed to put my head under the swim platform under way to know if it is working?

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        • nyryan2001
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1993

          • Lake Anna


          #49
          I wouldn't call it "an issue" per se. I just would never want NCRS cranked to 5 all the time inducing bow rise, higher RPMs and massive wakes as suggested earlier. Everything's perfectly functional now with manual adjustments. I think the confusion you are seeing here are folks that don't understand NCRS and how it works.

          My recommendations are the final 10% to get the synchronization of NCRS and G speed control to the "Lexus" level we expect from Nautique. GPH's would improve.
          2019 G23 450
          2014 G23 550
          2013 G23 450
          2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
          2007 Yamaha AR210

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          • JoeA
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jun 2014
            • 808

            • Chickamauga Lake TN

            • 2015 G23 550

            #50
            Originally posted by DocPhil View Post
            OK ok. No 5.3 liter

            Back to the real question.

            Doc, have you demoed a G with the 5.3 liter? Fill us in on where you are in your search for answers and a boat? I am confident a G will suit your expectations as a consumer. Lots of former Malibu guys here. No bashing, just happy with the change.
            2015 G23 550
            2013 Malibu 22MXZ

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            • Oliverrider
              • Aug 2024
              • 2
              • Lagoon Nepchupte

              • Cancún, Quintana Roo

              • Nautique G23 2013

              #51
              Good evening sir. My name is Oliver, I got a G23 2013 with the ZR409. I have 582 hours on it, I use it 4 times with each time the same weight as ballast crew and gaz.
              i run as full ballast plus two 260 lbs in port and starboard mid compartment, 375 lbs in the bow and a 205 lbs under the passenger seat beside the driver. Around 3/4 of a gas tank and 2 adult and one child. I’ve been doing this 3 times with no issue at all but the fourth time the boat throttle lever was at max and the speed stay at 14 mph. The NCRS was at auto « on » intensity high and at 5 like the 3 other times. To get the boat on plane I have to drain the rear ballast about 1/4 both side and still take a long time to get on plane. I suspect the NCRS actuator is bad but not sure about it. Here what I did check, i noticed that the plate on trailer is retracted as like flat ( parallel to the ground) mean at 5 if I’m not wrong. So I disconnect the NSS starboard connector I take his male connector and I connected in the female NCRS connector and then I run my key code to cycle the zero noising of the NSS. So the NSS port make his zero noising, the starboard one did not cause was disconnected but also the NCRS did not make any sound or mouvement and stay flat again. Is that mean that my actuator is no more good and need to be change? Thank you for your time. Oliver​

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