Terry McNew Leaving Correct Craft

[redelf75]

Austin, would it have bothered you less if the news release indicated that he "is a deeply religious man" as opposed to a "Christian man"? If not, then what does your being Jewish have to do with it? In other words, what bothers you, the mention of Christianity or the mixing of business and religion? Your statement describing your religious beliefs tends to indicate that its the former.

This is not an attempt to defend my son, because I am offended myself.

I find your question unfair. Fact is, he did say Christian and it isn't the first time we've heard this from CC. You're making an assumption based on a hypothetical situation. Isn't that like circumstantial evidence?

[redelf75]

let me get this straight. little DIGA gets the thumbs up from his dad for putting all these christian dirtbags in their place

You got it crooked. Go back and read his post again carefully.

[redelf75]

yes, ...i find it offensive that austin states his religious background, and at the same time kicks meloon for mentioning his and McNew's. what a double standard!! and daddy says horray!? wow. Jn 3:16

THe "kick" as you put it is not for being Christian or mentioning it. It's the context and the conotation that is important. There is a time and place for everything, and it is apparent that Austin feels that the news release is not one of those times, or places. I agree with that, as do others.

Regarding my "horray"...read my post again. Hint: read the part in bold slowly.

[redelf75]

when my children become instigators, i'm not proud of them, i give em a smack upside the head.

For this he is guilty, although I do not agree with your way of handling it. But one could argue that it is Ken that is the real instigator.

[redelf75]

So in the end...

Austin has offended many of you and many of you have offended me, and maybe him and maybe others.

Can we all still be friends now and move on?

[skinautique]

amazing how much time is spent talking about this one...........

[Rhode]

I have a few points to make here and will drop the whole matter after doing so, unless some self-assured nitwit wants to start quoting Hitler at me and threaten to beat me up behind the Nautique display at the Ohio ski/wakeboard fair.

First off, it was CC that started all of this with their wildly inapproriate reference to Mr. McNonJew in a company press release. That was a communique' to the entire tow boating world about a signifanct change in senior management. It was not an appropriate place to be pushing Christianity on anyone, as some here have suggested, even if it is their right to do so in a free country. That's my oppinion, clearly stated.

It is also my oppinion, more specifically, that using a CC press release in pursuit of expanding the Christian flock is a basturd interpretation of Jesus' Great Commission to his Disciples (and all Christians by extension) following the Last Supper to, "Go out and make believers of all men, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." If fellow PN membes don't also see it this way, then it will not surprise me to learn that some of you are the type of prostletyzing yahoo who would attend the Super Bowl in hopes of jumping in front of a camera wearing a rainbow-colored afro with a sign that reads, "John 3:16." But, if Ranbow Man was an innocent amusement or curiousity of the 70s and 80s, there has to be some sort of informal line that should not be crossed by people in a free and respectful society? Hopefully, it is somwhere short of screaming aloud on a street corner that, "God so loved the world that he gave his only son and that whosoever believeth in, and loveth, Allah should slit people's throats with a box cutter and crash planes into the World Trade Center Towers and Pentagon."

When carrying on about your religious beliefs, I warn my fellow PN members to not be so caught up in the relative sucess of your lives as to lose perspective of the fact that most of you were born on third base (a white-colored bag) with a hotdog and beer in hand and with the bases loaded. You would have had to try and make a relative failure of your lives. It's a mistake for any faith, so-called Evangelicals, Jews, Muslims and others alike, to start carrying on like they are God's Chosen People. It's that kind of thinking that leads to insularity and has prompted so much misunderstanding and persecution throughout the ages.

All said, what really rubbs me about that CC press release is that they offer no real information about why Mr. McNonJew jumped out the window or was pushed. All we are told is that he is "gifted in many disciplines" (possible read: but not great at any), a "great people person" (possible read: everybody's friend at the water cooler) and has "assembled a strong leadership team" (possible read: but couldn't lead them to the bathroom). We're also told that he is a "wonderful Christian man...[and] God sent" (possible read: met The Family smell test but stunk up the joint otherwise and that's why God is sending him away). But, who really knows, the press release doesn't say (no surprisingly) and PN's CC company know-it-alls have got nothing to say so far other than to express amazement that the issue of religion has been so hotly discussed here.

Rhode

[AbunDiga909]

Whatever, I don't think there's been one thread that included religion that didn't get out of hand, and I'm sorry for bringing it up in this one. This one too got way out of hand and am sorry to be responsible for it. Not worth anymore arguing... Its raining out, I'm going to the lake...

~Austin

[MHayes]

Rhode, you are analyzing and interpreting the press release way too much IMO (see post above where you gave your interpretation on several statements made in the PR), all of which were your opinion. As for Mr. McNew leaving, well CC clearly stated that he was "resigning his position to return to Sea Ray Corporation as its Senior Vice President of Product Development and Engineering", which is where he started his career. He's only been with CC since 2004, which isn't a career by all means, and was maybe wanting to get back to a place that he knows better given his tenure at Sea Ray. I would also imagine that Sea Ray placed a nice offer in front of him and that Senior Vice President at a company the size of Sea Ray probably exceeds being President at a privately owned smaller company not only in terms of pay, but responsibility as well. Maybe he achieved what he wanted to do at CC and was looking for another challenge elsewhere, maybe it was political, however, no one outside of CC or Mr. McNew will probably ever know that. And as for pushing Christianity on anyone via the press release, I didn't read it that way and aren't quite sure how you did? The PR simply stated that he was a wonderful Christian man......if that's pushing Christianity to you, then it sounds that you would read anything into any statement made. My $.02.

[niagararob]

redelf, i think your right to say we should put this behind us and move on so i'd like to apologize for any insulting statements. Austin sounds like he's got a good heart with a lot of passion i wish him the best. CC has had christian roots for a long time and probably will. i've been on web sites of some of the PN members and realize that when i'm there its like being a guest at their home, its their right to say and display what they want, so does CC when it comes to their press releases and web site.i hope that in the future we expect some of the company's statements to reflect its character.

you know what bugs me, when some "music artists" receive an award for a song that graphically describes pimpin out ho's and cappin someone's a** with their 9mm, and upon accepting recognition throw in " thank you Jesus". someone find me the "emmy's" website , or is it the "grammys", maybe its the "oscars"

[SNMike]

WOW!!!!!! ANYONE who was offended by that SIMPLE press release is someone that over analyses things to the point of being cynical. How can you get through a day with that logic.

They said McNew was a good Christain man............as opposed to being a bottom feeder.......thats all. <sigh>


Regards to ALL!!!!! Mike

[SGY]

Austin, don't apologize. Continue to stand by your beliefs. My post was meant to provoke more thought from you, nothing more.

Redelf75, I disagree with your post. I wasn't assuming anything and there is nothing hypothetical about what Austin posted. I was just sharpening his focus.

Unless I miss my guess, Austin is offended to some degree because the company that he loves doesn't appear to value religious diversity. That may or may not be true but by using the term Christian, other beliefs are excluded, and a negative inference is created towards non-christian beliefs. By stating a "good Christian man", there is some alienation for those that love CC's products but don't share in Christian tenants and beliefs. Kinda like not being included in the club.

Bottom line. CC is at times over the top in my opinion. That's ok. I don't buy their product because of their religious fervor. I'm Catholic but I don't go around trying to convert people. Just isn't my style. On the other hand, I don't like the world we live in where schools and society in general are sanitized of religious reference. With that perspective, CC's statement is refreshing. Perhaps "deeply religious man" would have been better or more political.

This is why you never talk politics or religion--unless you know your audience.

[Rhode]

SGY,

Better that our schools and society are sanitized of religious reference than the World again see Europe's largest Christian church (think Vatican) stand aside and look away while 6 million Jews are led to their slaughter. Christian, you say, and in the name of our Lord???

Other than what I said above, which might make a Jewish father and his son a little skiddish when a bunch of boat people start putt'n on their Christian for no good reason, I'll guess that you have it about right with regard to the points you made about what turned off Diga about that press release.

Rhode

[SGY]

Skiddish is an understatement given the grevious nature of the issue which you just raised.

[SNMike]

SGY,

Better that our schools and society are sanitized of religious reference than the World again see Europe's largest Christian church (think Vatican) stand aside and look away while 6 million Jews are led to their slaughter. Christian, you say, and in the name of our Lord???Rhode

Yeah, better strike the reference to God from our currency, and from now on it should be "One nation, under the control of activist judges and bleeding heart liberals...........heck, why not just hand over the keys to our country to China.

The vast majority of people in this country are CHRISTAINS. This country was founded on beliefs related to christainity. If someone, anyone is offended by that, get out. Majority rules.

NO offense to ANYONE, but when it comes to the erosion of the USA, my blood pressure rises right now.

GOD BLESS US ALL!! Mike :|