Purchase Price 2017 G23

[Nickleej]

I have listed a build sheet below of the boat I'm leaning towards and wondered what price i should be working on getting with a trailer. I have spoke to a couple people who have ordered their 2017 G23 and they are saying high 130K, under 140K. Thoughts?



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[lion90]

I do have a thought. Holy moly, I will be keeping my 2013 G23 for a long time to come. Pretty loaded and out the door under 100K back when the G first came out. I can't believe how much these continue to rise in price.

Good luck in getting the best price possible. A buddy of mine got a pretty loaded leftover from last year for around 115+taxes. So it doesn't seem like this price is too far out of line given it is being it is current year ordered to your specs.

[Kmayotte]

Your price sounds like a decent deal. I priced out a 2017 with fairly limited options. The dealer offered 20% off MSRP right off the bat which put it at 130K w/ trailer. I decided to hunt for a slightly used 2016.

[Beg4wake]

$140k sounds like a good deal to me! My 2016 was fairly similar to that, although add color deck and hull, Phender Pro (which I highly recommend), and minus the ladder.... with a FULLY loaded trailer (which they only charged me $7k for a $10k optioned trailer) I was just over $150k fully said and done and that was 20% off MSRP. I think the boat itself came out to be just a hair over $140k. Although that colored deck and hull was a fairly pricey option.

[Bevostein]

I agree with Lion.....I can't comment specifically on a '17 or '16 for that matter but I do know that this time last year just as the '16s we were starting to hit dealer lots we were shopping for a used G. My dealer offer up two new '15s. One was $108+TTL and the other $112+TTL. The only real difference is the $108 had base stereo and he was going to holdback the tower speakers so I could install my own.

I would be interested to know what you could get a '16 for. Seems like there may be a hefty premium for the latest model year. I would be asking myself how much I will use it before its time to winterize. If I was shopping now and wanted new, I would be targeting a '16 that's been on the lot for awhile. I admit though that the '17 screen and other upgrades are NICE but its still the same hull.

One other thing is that this time of year the factory sends out a list to dealers of '16 boats that are at the factory and ready to ship. My dealers showed that to me as well and while we didn't go down that road I think a good deal could be had there as well.

One other thing to keep in mind is that the your build is almost all white. My understanding is each time you add a color to the deck or hull it can drive price up substantially as that is an additional option. So if someone says they bought their '17 or '16 for XXX and it was optioned with hull and deck colors and yours is not then its not a good comparison or at least an indicator that yours should be lower. .

[Xstreamws]

I'm new to this forum, we are BU owners for now. I won't go into why we are moving away from BU. However we are considering ordering a 2017 G23 we are heavy surf and wakeboarding. We typically go out with 2 family's so 4-8 people. I like your color combos and configuration you choose. I would like to ask you why Nautique vs others.

Me personally we have gone out twice on a 2017 G23 my wife and I loved it. However I have a couple questions of you. 1. I noticed a huge amount of torque in the boat tilting it heavy to the driver side for the first few seconds of throttling to plane. Is this the normal operation of a Nautique?

2. We surfed and love the wake without having supplemental ballest bags to fill, but we didn't wakeboard for the sake of time. However our dealer showed me the stock wake at 23mph and it was impressive, however I was taken back buy the sales guy telling me I had to pull up on the throttle slowly so I didn't fill the back of the boat with water. He said if you pull up quickly to natural and ballest is full and you don't turn away from wake the trailing wake will find its way in the back of the boat.

Obviously the shape of the stern the walk through is helping the wake find its way into the boat. Tell me your thoughts on these 2 things. I'm a long time inboard boat owner and very experienced driver and I have never seen or experienced anything like this in a characteristic of boat handling. Thoughts on how to overcome these 2 things that really kind of bug me.

i will post a couple pics of the color combos we are considering tomorrow.

have a great weekend and be safe.

[Evening Shade]

I'm new to this forum, we are BU owners for now. I won't go into why we are moving away from BU. However we are considering ordering a 2017 G23 we are heavy surf and wakeboarding. We typically go out with 2 family's so 4-8 people. I like your color combos and configuration you choose. I would like to ask you why Nautique vs others.

Me personally we have gone out twice on a 2017 G23 my wife and I loved it. However I have a couple questions of you. 1. I noticed a huge amount of torque in the boat tilting it heavy to the driver side for the first few seconds of throttling to plane. Is this the normal operation of a Nautique?

2. We surfed and love the wake without having supplemental ballest bags to fill, but we didn't wakeboard for the sake of time. However our dealer showed me the stock wake at 23mph and it was impressive, however I was taken back buy the sales guy telling me I had to pull up on the throttle slowly so I didn't fill the back of the boat with water. He said if you pull up quickly to natural and ballest is full and you don't turn away from wake the trailing wake will find its way in the back of the boat.

Obviously the shape of the stern the walk through is helping the wake find its way into the boat. Tell me your thoughts on these 2 things. I'm a long time inboard boat owner and very experienced driver and I have never seen or experienced anything like this in a characteristic of boat handling. Thoughts on how to overcome these 2 things that really kind of bug me.

i will post a couple pics of the color combos we are considering tomorrow.

have a great weekend and be safe.

Water will come in the back of my 2011 210 as well if I have it heavily weighted and throttle back quickly from wakeboard speeds. I think it just has to do with a big fast moving wake catching up with a slow moving boat. My BU never did it either, but I don't think it produced as big a wake as my 210.

[Cpan13]

1. Torque from prop rotation. This isn't a characteristic isolated to Nautique. Most any inboard or v-drive will tilt one way when taking off, some more than others due to hull shape. I offset this in my G21 but leaving 200# extra in the port side.

2. I wakeboard heavily weighted in my G21. Water has only come over the back twice and both were from people that hadn't driven the boat before. If you turn one way or the other when you let off the throttle it will never happen.

[ejj]

Boats tilt (roll) a bit when they have a v bottom. You will notice a bit when stepping in from the dock or when the boat is lifting but not planing due to prop torque. If you have a boat with a flatter bottom this will be less noticeable--the flat stern keeps the boat very level. Most DD ski boats and older v-drives were pretty flat.

A more developed V hull will give you bigger wakes and better ride through chop. A flatter hull will seem more stable, give flatter wakes, and will feel the chop more.

Some me boats have a deep v bow, but transition to a flat hull at the back. Anyway.

This is all generalization of course, each boat handles a bit differently, and ballast/weight makes a difference too.

[dbrayton1]

We traded a 2015 23 LSV for a 2016 G23. Probably for similar reasons as most. Agree totally with previous answers: all surf boats with a deeper v will lean do to prop torque or people movement, but willing to deal with that for better ride in rough water and steeper surf wave.

Never had water come over the back. Was taught to start turn as I throttle down as a kid and it's been habit since.

Tip, turn towards the side the surf system is deployed then a tiny pop in reverse and the boat will rotate all the way around. You'll never have water over the transom and also won't need to drive over your own rollers back to the surfer.


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[lucky7t]

Nick,
I think you need to be around the $125k mark on those options you chose . You should be able to get their if your ordering it . Sorry someone hijacked your thread .

[Xstreamws]

Nick

I didn't intend to hijack your thread, however thanks for the answers that where given. We are heading out for a side by side test of the NEW 2017 22 MXZ and the NEW 2017 G23 one last time in a week and I will take advice and try while demoing. Again sorry if I hijacked your thread....

Lastly it was good to see interaction on pricing and options, I will let you know where we end up on the G23 price wise...

[Ironman97459]

130-140 sounds like a good deal to me for the options on that list. I've got zero white on my boat and paid over ten grand in up charges just for color.


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[Tallredrider]

This might be a good benchmark to start your comparison. 2016 G23 with only 10 hours and with the Supercharged motor for 129K.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...tique&ad_cid=9

I do not see anything in 2017 that makes me want to upgrade, other than the awesome new boat smell.

Water over the back...a total non-issue once you remember it is there.

[ericchile]

This might be a good benchmark to start your comparison. 2016 G23 with only 10 hours and with the Supercharged motor for 129K.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...tique&ad_cid=9

I do not see anything in 2017 that makes me want to upgrade, other than the awesome new boat smell.

Water over the back...a total non-issue once you remember it is there.

Sweet boat!