Do you add extra ballast to surf your G23?

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  • Tallredrider
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1026

    • St. George, Utah

    • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

    #1

    Do you add extra ballast to surf your G23?

    Just curious how much weight additional you guys are adding to surf with. For me, I am plenty happy with my stock wave.
    48
    I add 100-500 pounds extra ballast
    14.58%
    7
    I add 500 to 1500 pounds of extra ballast
    16.67%
    8
    I add 1500+ pounds of extra ballast
    22.92%
    11
    I do not surf with extra ballast. The stock wave is good by me.
    45.83%
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  • nyryan2001
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1993

    • Lake Anna


    #2
    This weekend surfing 2850lbs OEM + ~400lbs lead and extra batteries, + ~1000lbs in the surfside trunk. 2800rpms, 11.7mph amazing wave.

    Tall, I think if you experienced the Buxton Marine Colston plumbed setup... And how flawless it works with 1100s in the trunks... You'd want to run extra weight.
    2019 G23 450
    2014 G23 550
    2013 G23 450
    2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
    2007 Yamaha AR210

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    • sgresham
      • Aug 2016
      • 33

      • Argyle, TX

      • 2016 SAN G25

      #3
      I have a 2016 G25, and the stock ballast is fine, but it is so much more fun with 750s in the rear lockers. I run it at 11.7 to 12 completely full. I also bought my boat, and had the extra sacs installed at Buxton. Top notch!

      nyryan, where did you put the 400lbs of lead?

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      • Whitetail15
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2010
        • 603

        • Unknown

        • 2016 G23 H6

        #4
        I only run 200 lbs of lead under seat by sub speaker. We usually only have 2-3 passengers, but this weekend had 8 passengers evenly spread threw out the boat. Wave was noticeably bigger and longer.
        2016 G23

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        • Neverenough
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Sep 2012
          • 907

          • Ft. Worth Texas

          • G

          #5
          Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
          This weekend surfing 2850lbs OEM + ~400lbs lead and extra batteries, + ~1000lbs in the surfside trunk. 2800rpms, 11.7mph amazing wave.

          Tall, I think if you experienced the Buxton Marine Colston plumbed setup... And how flawless it works with 1100s in the trunks... You'd want to run extra weight.
          Pics??

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          • heel5man
            • Aug 2016
            • 150

            • Lake Keowee SC

            • 2018 G23

            #6
            Following this thread as I'd like to know if we should do any weighting beyond factory on the 2017 G23 that we are fortunate enough to have on the way.


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            • sgresham
              • Aug 2016
              • 33

              • Argyle, TX

              • 2016 SAN G25

              #7
              Originally posted by heel5man View Post
              Following this thread as I'd like to know if we should do any weighting beyond factory on the 2017 G23 that we are fortunate enough to have on the way.


              Sent from my iPhone using PLANETNAUTIQUE mobile app
              I think the stock wave is great, but I notice a ton more push with the extra sacs in the rear lockers. The wave is also huge, and it really cleans up at about 11.7 mph with the added sacs. My thought was, "The lockers are there for something!"

              Usually there are only two to three of us on the boat though. My wife rides stock ballast. She's about 120 lbs, but I really like the added sacs. I'm 6'3" and about 185.

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              • Evening Shade
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 1295

                • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                #8
                Originally posted by nyryan2001 View Post
                This weekend surfing 2850lbs OEM + ~400lbs lead and extra batteries, + ~1000lbs in the surfside trunk. 2800rpms, 11.7mph amazing wave.

                Tall, I think if you experienced the Buxton Marine Colston plumbed setup... And how flawless it works with 1100s in the trunks... You'd want to run extra weight.
                Ryan, I would like to how your Buxton Colston system works if you have pics. Just curious.
                2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                • nyryan2001
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1993

                  • Lake Anna


                  #9
                  Colston is one of the techs at Buxton, he is awesome.

                  Y valves after the port/starboard OEM pumps to 1100s. Fills and drains independently after or before the OEM bags. Fill from the bottoms, overflows tap into existing bilge thru hulls. No holes to drill.

                  works flawlessly nearly 600hrs on 2 Gs. Fill OEM ballast enroute to your spot. Flip valves start riding and the wave continues to grow.

                  only thing better would be True OEM integration of 1100s from the Linc, on their own pumps.

                  I'll post pics shortly
                  2019 G23 450
                  2014 G23 550
                  2013 G23 450
                  2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                  2007 Yamaha AR210

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                  • nyryan2001
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1993

                    • Lake Anna


                    #10










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                    2019 G23 450
                    2014 G23 550
                    2013 G23 450
                    2011 Malibu Wakesetter 247
                    2007 Yamaha AR210

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                    • Hogwild
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 42

                      • Louisiana

                      • 2020 P25

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sgresham View Post

                      I think the stock wave is great, but I notice a ton more push with the extra sacs in the rear lockers. The wave is also huge, and it really cleans up at about 11.7 mph with the added sacs. My thought was, "The lockers are there for something!"

                      Usually there are only two to three of us on the boat though. My wife rides stock ballast. She's about 120 lbs, but I really like the added sacs. I'm 6'3" and about 185.
                      I have a 2015 G25, also from Buxton with the same set up in the rear lockers, makes a huge difference in surf wave performance IMO.....I usually run NCRS at 5 and Surf Vert on 3 at 11mph. Curious what your setting are at that speed? Thanks in advance.

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                      • Tallredrider
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 1026

                        • St. George, Utah

                        • Red Metal Flake 2016 G23! Malibu 25 LSV 2019 2021 Centurion Ri237

                        #12
                        Some days I think that my NCRS doesn't even do anything. And my NSS adjustments on the fly hardly make a difference. I have to play with it a bit more. I can see hardly any change in it when I adjust those things. My 12 year old desperately needs a wave with less power, and I finally resorted to just going without ballast for her. I am also considering going back to some list.

                        I once added an 1100 to the floor of the boat and the wave became ginormous. It was a busy day on the small lake I live near and rides of any length of time required us to turn around into our own wave. Pretty much nobody could continue to surf when we crossed our own rollers. Just cruising down the lake lengthwise was fraught with multiple jetskis, tubers, and other obstacles that made us stick to the side where shorter runs were all that was possible. Having said that the wave become so big, I was a bit disappointed that it did not lengthen the wave, even going 12 MPH. I am actually looking to tinker the wave to make it a little less steep, as I am trying to land a 360 and that vertical wall of water is sort of harder on that.

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                        • sgresham
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 33

                          • Argyle, TX

                          • 2016 SAN G25

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hogwild View Post

                          I have a 2015 G25, also from Buxton with the same set up in the rear lockers, makes a huge difference in surf wave performance IMO.....I usually run NCRS at 5 and Surf Vert on 3 at 11mph. Curious what your setting are at that speed? Thanks in advance.
                          I still run 5 and 0, but I will try 5 and 3. Did that lengthen the wave some?

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                          • Hogwild
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 42

                            • Louisiana

                            • 2020 P25

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sgresham View Post

                            I still run 5 and 0, but I will try 5 and 3. Did that lengthen the wave some?
                            For me the 3 setting seems to make the wave the steeper without being too steep, but I'm not going as fast as you. I'm gonna play with it some friday and try your settings, are you running with both extra locker sacs full?

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                            • Neverenough
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 907

                              • Ft. Worth Texas

                              • G

                              #15
                              Pics of the wave???

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