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  • jondavis08
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2016
    • 369

    • Battle Creek, MI

    • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

    Dry weight close to max weight on Lift

    Getting real close on making a decision on a 2013 or 2014 210. I'm concerned about my lift with the 2014 however. I have a Craftlander 4500lbs. Dry weight is 4200lbs on the 2014 compared to 3900lbs on the 2013. Dealer claims I'd be fine of course but my lift guy said that it'd void the warranty on the lift. Anyone using a 4500 lift with a 2014+ 210? Anyone have thoughts on choosing between a 2013 and 2014? Similar options, 2014 has much lower hours. It'd be only $5k more to jump to the 2014..

  • swatguy
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2008
    • 1631

    • Midwest/ Northern IL

    • 2008 SANTE 210

    #2
    Real world you're ok. Lifts are built with some leeway outside the nax. However if something like catastrophic failure happened I am sure the lift company would probably argue sonething on a warranty

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    • shag
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2217

      • Florida


      #3
      20 years of having boats on lifts. You will be at or above the weight limit IMO... Gear and fuel.... I think like most will tell you, you can probably get away with it, but with a 100K boat, I wouldn't chance it. I always over build everything. Another reason for that is if you want to upgrade in the future you are not lift limited. imo
      Last edited by shag; 11-29-2016, 12:46 AM.

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      • ScooterMcgavin
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1478

        • Florida

        • 2014 SAN 210 TE

        #4
        the main differences between the 13 and 14 210's would probably be
        1. Hull tweak to work better with NSS
        2. Recessed cup holders in gunwales
        3. Walk through in rear
        2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
        2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
        1989 Sport Nautique

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        • JoeA
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Jun 2014
          • 808

          • Chickamauga Lake TN

          • 2015 G23 550

          #5
          Don't do it. Add gas and a driver and you're over the limit everyday of the week

          Do it once......do it right
          2015 G23 550
          2013 Malibu 22MXZ

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          • robertsmcfarland
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2004
            • 544

            • Hyco

            • 2014 g23 550

            #6
            is it the cable or the structure (frame) that limits you ,,,if it just the cable ,up grade to the next diameter..good to change out out after a few years....they get week over time ...my rear port cable sapped last year only after three summers ..no harm as we were lowing into water...my cables are rated 4000 lbs over dry wait....
            2013 G23 super air
            2010 230 super air
            2009 220 super air
            2008 210 super air
            2005 210 super air
            2003 calabria pro air

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            • mcosub
              • Aug 2016
              • 235

              • Orlando

              • 2020 GS22 2017 SANTE 210

              #7
              I just went through this when i was building my dock and I had originally thought a 4000" rated system would work. Ended up bumping up to over 6000 lb system which upgrades the cables and goes from a 1 hp motor to a 1 1/2 hp motor. Well worth the added safety for my 2017 210 SANTE, fuel, oil, gear and me (if I am in the boat at any time during lowering, cleaning, etc).

              Dont skimp on this in my opinion.

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              • lucky7t
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1306

                • Oklahoma

                • 2015 SANTE

                #8
                4000 lb hydrohoist lift here with 2015 210. Works great


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                Current Correct Craft Boat
                [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                Correct Craft Boats Owned
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                • Quinner
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 2245

                  • Unknown

                  • Correct Crafts

                  #9
                  Need a little more info, guessing it is Hydraulic?? If so that could be a little more of an issue vs a cable style lift, possibly shorter pump/valve life.
                  If cable or hydraulic, like Mcfarland stated, see if what you have can be upgraded for a heavier load.

                  In either scenario I personally would use it as is with either boat, you should not be raising/lowering (other then the first/last couple inches) with people in the boat regardless, so you should be very near the rated capacity (not excessively overloaded), which should be fine.

                  Seen many cable lifts used WAY overloaded without any real issue other then they are a bear to wheel up!

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                  • homer12
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 584

                    • Indianapolis, IN

                    • 2004 SV211 TE

                    #10
                    I agree to upgrade with everyone else saying that. If you're so close you will be over with one person in boat cleaning out and some gear and fuel. Ask the lift guy if it can be upgraded by parts and not complete new lift as was said earlier - also, it may just be the motor as the limiting factor, may be cables, may be cross members, etc.

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                    • 4th ski-doo
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 307

                      • Wilmington

                      • 2013 SANTE210 2011 Sport200V 1994 Bimini Skier 190 1986 Master Craft Pro Star 190

                      #11
                      Broke a lift with my 210. Gear, fuel, forget to drain and its light out. Would you feel safe going under the lift with the boat on it? It never ends, you can most likely find a buyer for the old lift.

                      I really wish I had the walk-thru but it's not the end of the world. 14 has more stock ballast too.
                      2013 SANTE 210
                      2011 Sport 200 V
                      1994 Bimini Skier Pro 190
                      1986 Master Craft Pro Star 190

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                      • lucky7t
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1306

                        • Oklahoma

                        • 2015 SANTE

                        #12
                        Our lift is a floating hydrohoist so now that I've read more and the lifts your referring to are cable I would upgrade for sure . Our lift simply fills with air and no cables .


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                        Current Correct Craft Boat
                        [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                        Correct Craft Boats Owned
                        [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                        [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                        [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                        • jondavis08
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • May 2016
                          • 369

                          • Battle Creek, MI

                          • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

                          #13
                          Yeah, mine has cables. Just bought the 2014 so I'm looking to upgrade. Lake living is sure expensive


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                          • JoeA
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 808

                            • Chickamauga Lake TN

                            • 2015 G23 550

                            #14
                            Sell the lift and buy one that is properly sized. I am not going to point out the downside of what a failure looks like to a boat or a loved one.
                            2015 G23 550
                            2013 Malibu 22MXZ

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                            • jondavis08
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • May 2016
                              • 369

                              • Battle Creek, MI

                              • 2014 SANTE 210 2003 SANTE 210-Sold

                              #15
                              Any thoughts on a used Hydraulic (Basta 60120) or a New Craftlander? My current 4500 is a Craftland and works fine but is there any real benefit to going with Hydraulic? Price would be pretty much the same

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