2017 Tige RZX2 vs 2015 G23

[Mgigs7]

If cost was the same hrs on the G were 50-100 what would the best choice be? Surf Wave, resale, and overall boat experience. I realize this is on the Nautique forum so I'm probably going to get a little biased opinion but I'm hoping to hear why the G.
Thx!


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[Clax]

Having owned both Tige and Nautique wake boats, here are my thoughts: 1) Boat Build Quality - Nautique is, by far, the better quality boat. More solid, more attention to detail, tighter fit and finish. 2) Surf Wake - I suppose this can be argued both ways, I have experienced great wakes on both boats. I can say that the NSS system achieves a great surf wake with ease, and without much boat lean. I found with the Tige that we needed significantly more lean. 3) Resale - It seems that the G boats are holding their value incredibly well. I believe better than Tige. 4) Overall - If cost is the same, there is no question you go with Nautique.

[F725]

I've never owned a G23 but have surfed quite a few. I've owned a Tige' from 2005 thru 2012. The Tige's back in that time frame held up well. Like Clax said, surf waves will be argued about over and over and over... both can be great, and again like Clax said, the NSS and NCRS make setting up the wave or changing the wave so quick and easy.

I was recently at the MSP boat show and snooped around the Tige' booth for a bit. Nice on the outside but... I had a salesman walk me through the new RZX2. Really tall step to get into the boat from the swim platform and again back into the boat. While I was standing on the floor in the boat, the salesman stepped onto the floor with me, he's not a big guy but the floor caved in at least 1/4 to 1/2 inch. It was really flimsy in my opinion! I helped at the Nautique booth for 3 days, sat in all the boats, and had many good sized people step on the floors with no noticeable give.

The G definitely gets the most votes from others.

[MLA]

Clax,

Would it be more helpful to the OP, to let him know which tige you are basing your experience off of, of another model than the RZX2 he is asking about? The RZX2 is brand new for 2017 and will also be fitted with the TAPS-3 surf system. Ive been in a couple TAPS-3 boats and found them to require very little list, or should I say that the TAPS induces very little list. I also found that the attitude is very level as opposed to some boats with a side-deploying surf apparatus. However, these were not RZX2's, so different hull may produce different results. I have no experience in the RXZ2 yet, so I cant offer much of a comparison, but I think you are asking a fair question. Ask this of any other Tige, id likely vote for the G.

[Mgigs7]

Same question with the 2016 RZX


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[Wake.BC]

Never been in either on the water but have spent many hours at boat shows checking out the two. The G23 feels like a much bigger boat on the inside, which is nice. Tige has a much higher and further forward tower allowing for easier access into the boat. Also the tower has a pretty decent factory stereo, all wetsounds, rev 8 or 10. Most Rzx boats I've seen have the ptm clamping board racks which seem to function amazingly. Lastly one of the biggest advantages of the G is ballast, you can get an amazing wave when surfing with the rear lockers completely empty, that's a total game changer. (Edit: I'm not sure if tige's rear lockers are empty, there seems to be mixed thoughts)


Differences between 2016 and 2017 with the tige are quite a few small features that make it worth while. The new electric tower, with side panels on the side that pop off for easy access, although it comes pre wired. A new touch screen which is massive! looking very similar to a tesla.


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[Clax]

Clax,

Would it be more helpful to the OP, to let him know which tige you are basing your experience off of, of another model than the RZX2 he is asking about? The RZX2 is brand new for 2017 and will also be fitted with the TAPS-3 surf system. Ive been in a couple TAPS-3 boats and found them to require very little list, or should I say that the TAPS induces very little list. I also found that the attitude is very level as opposed to some boats with a side-deploying surf apparatus. However, these were not RZX2's, so different hull may produce different results. I have no experience in the RXZ2 yet, so I cant offer much of a comparison, but I think you are asking a fair question. Ask this of any other Tige, id likely vote for the G.

Fair point, I overlooked the fact that the 2017 is a new design. I was comparing to my experience with the Z3 and RZ2. My experience with these Tige's has been that there is a significant amount of list required in comparison to the G. But as you pointed out, perhaps that was addressed in 2017 on the RZX2. Another poster made a good point about interior room, the G23 interior feels monstrous in comparison to the 22-ft Tige boats.

[cek]

You are comparing apple to oranges. The RZX2 would be comparable to the GS22. The G23 would be comparable to the RZX. The RZX2/GS22 are both more of a crossover (wake, surf and ski). The G23/RZX are big wake/surf boats. both Boats have under floor ballast and huge storage that doesn't require plug and play bags. I personally think is a Chevy vs ford thing when you are comparing apples to apples. Just my .02

[st68]

Experience both for yourself at Southern Surfest this April!! The RZX and G23 will be both be part of the event and you get to ride in both boats. I am a current G23 owner and have owned 3 Tige's in the past. The only complaint I ever hear about the G23 is the price tag.

[Mgigs7]

Thanks guys!


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[Tallredrider]

I demo'd the RZX last year. The dealer was unable to figure out the starboard settings to get a good surf wave over there. The boat came from the factory with a prop that would not allow it to get on plane for 40 seconds while wakeboarding. Both were fixable with a new prop and the dealer spending some time (took longer than the afternoon we were with them) figuring it out how to set it up.

2 lessons I gleaned from this:

1. Tige often releases boats without doing all of the homework (boat never should have gone to 2700 feet elevation with that propeller, let alone 4500 where the dealer is located). There are other examples as well. If it was the dealer's fault, the factory should have given him some guidance.

2. TAPS3 requires some intelligence and setup to find where the right settings are. You have 3 plates all with (I think) settings from 1-8. NSS is pretty much on or off and the rest is just fine tune, not major tuning. It strikes me that this is probably the reason Malibu has not yet put adjustments on surfgate. There is something nice about just pushing a button for all the ballast and knowing you have a surfable wave. I surf Tige owner's a lot and they have a special place in my heart, but hearing some of the recipes for the best surf wave are more complicated than any souffle you can dream up.

[Mgigs7]

Did you like the RZX ride? Did it handle the chop well? I know it wasn't set up right but I'm pricing it against 2013 - 14 G's for a new one. Too cold here to test one. I appreciate the insight. Thx!


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[Tallredrider]

The ride was great on the RZX. The port side surf wave was very good also. I was quoted pretty close to what I paid for my G23 on price as well. I think I got a better deal than most on my G23, but I have heard of others getting the same deal, so it was not miraculous. You may need to really sit down with your Nautique dealer again if you haven't already.

[Mgigs7]

Thanks, they are blowing out the 2016 RZX's right now low 100's or below. I would prefer a 16 G23. Everyone I see is mid 120's


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[Tallredrider]

I sold my 2015 for 107K in March last year. I would be surprised if you cannot find a decent used 16 for low 110's with a little bit of negotiating. Many people expect an offer a little lower than their asking price.

A 2016 RZX for 99K might be hard to pass on.