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In their minds the 210 is their budget or entry line boat.
The retail price between the two boats is within a couple thousand bucks. There really isn't any good reason why the GS20 would be substantially more on a custom ordered boat. In my mind, if the 210 is the entry level boat, it should be 20K less expensive.
These were the same conversations had when the G came out and here we are almost 5 years later and the good old outdated 210 and 230 are still around.
Not really, the GS20 and 210 are comparable in weight and price. The G's are 1500+ pounds more and quite a bit more expensive.
What would make the most sense to me is for Nautique to come up with a "Wake" hull for the GS boats; similar to what Malibu does. They could redesign the 210 to add underfloor ballast, but I don't see the point as the two models are already so similar that any redesign (100" beam, bigger bow) would only make them more similar. Benefits I see to the 210 is less use of seadek, better wakeboard wake and a taller tower. The convertible rear seating is gone on the current 210s. Benefits of the GS include underfloor ballast, updated LINC, better surfing, quicker acceleration, bigger bow area.
Sales price are far more than a couple grand apart between the Gs20 and 210, and you are paying more for a 20' boat than you are a 21' boat so the price per foot number is quite a bit different. We can go back and forth all day, but time will truly tell.
I can't imagine Nautique without a 210. Maybe I'm the only one but I am not even considering a gs as a future option right now, the rear facing transom seats just look like a reason to be pulled over, and the videos showing the wake that i've seen haven't impressed me either. Anytime I hear crossover or all around... That tells me it does everything okay, but doesn't do an exceptional job at anything. As a wake first, ski never family... No interest in this line until myself or someone I trust says the wake beats the 210.
I'd keep my deposit on the 210. Taking everything else aside, it's just flat out a nicer looking boat. I just can't get over the 70's tri-hull look of the GS. Just my humble opinion
I can understand a dealer not wanting to discount an in-stock GS as much as a 210 being that it is a new model, but it shouldn't really make any difference on a custom order. The retail prices are right on Nautique's website, it not like it's a big secret.
We can agree on those rear facing transom seats; worst feature on the boat.
I still stand by this advise.
If you were only going to buy a new boat and were choosing between the 210 and gs20, get the gs20.
If you already own a 210, I wouldn't advise selling it just to buy a GS, but ALOT of people are. (That's good for me, because I'm in the market for a used 210.)
If I was a wake first, ski never family, I wouldn't buy a GS either. I would buy a used 210/230 in the $40-65K range or a G in the $80-100K range.
But that's what I would do, everyone gets to make their own decision...can't really go wrong either way, its spitting hairs to some extent. They are all good boats.
Thanks for the input, unless the GS20 blows me away on the lake test I'm leaning towards the 210. I'm a tall guy and the bimini on the GS is pretty low, also the extra 10-15k in my pocket doesn't hurt.
I hated to reply because I've said it plenty of times and caught blow back . The 210 is a killer boat . It surfs great , the wake is sick! It's easy to tow , easy to maneuver . Our family loves these boats . I've owned many of them . Wouldn't own anything else
We don't ski though . We wakeboard , surf , wakeskate and chill.
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The retail price between the two boats is within a couple thousand bucks. There really isn't any good reason why the GS20 would be substantially more on a custom ordered boat. In my mind, if the 210 is the entry level boat, it should be 20K less expensive.
Not really, the GS20 and 210 are comparable in weight and price. The G's are 1500+ pounds more and quite a bit more expensive.
What would make the most sense to me is for Nautique to come up with a "Wake" hull for the GS boats; similar to what Malibu does. They could redesign the 210 to add underfloor ballast, but I don't see the point as the two models are already so similar that any redesign (100" beam, bigger bow) would only make them more similar. Benefits I see to the 210 is less use of seadek, better wakeboard wake and a taller tower. The convertible rear seating is gone on the current 210s. Benefits of the GS include underfloor ballast, updated LINC, better surfing, quicker acceleration, bigger bow area.
I don't think with the way the 210/230s are made they can be altered to include sub floor ballast. If they did it, it would look like a G.
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Lets be honest here....the 210s and 230s will disappear. Maybe they stay around another year but the GS boats are definitely outselling the 210 and 230 so their time will pass.
You keep saying that. ALL of them will disappear at some point.
After demoing a GS20 and the GS22 I would not consider trading my 210 for a GS20. I also have access to a pure slalom boat so the ski benefit is of no value to me. For wakeboarding and surfing I'm able to get a better wake on my 210. Of course any wave is a personal preference. With the new electronics integration that Nautique did for the 210 in the 2018 models I don't see than going any where any time soon. A core group of people still really like those boats.
I purchased a 230 over a GS20, GS22 or G23. I preferred the size, appearance, and feature set as many 'traditionalists' do. My dealer sells all the 210s and 230s he can get. I also do not believe that Nautique would go to the trouble of reworking the dash and electronics if they planned to discontinue the models soon.
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