2017 SAN210 vs 2017 GS20

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  • cedarcreek216
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1009

    • Dallas, TX

    • 2018 210 2013 210 2009 216V

    #16
    These were the same conversations had when the G came out and here we are almost 5 years later and the good old outdated 210 and 230 are still around.


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    • Laptom
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Oct 2003
      • 876

      • Eindhoven, Netherlands


      #17
      Please make the line complete --> a 250 and a GS24... Both will be interesting boats and would sell.
      230 with ZR6 running on propane

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      • vanhanbr
        • Mar 2014
        • 223

        • Wisconsin

        • 2008 SAN 210

        #18
        Originally posted by cedarcreek216 View Post
        In their minds the 210 is their budget or entry line boat.
        The retail price between the two boats is within a couple thousand bucks. There really isn't any good reason why the GS20 would be substantially more on a custom ordered boat. In my mind, if the 210 is the entry level boat, it should be 20K less expensive.

        Originally posted by cedarcreek216 View Post
        These were the same conversations had when the G came out and here we are almost 5 years later and the good old outdated 210 and 230 are still around.
        Not really, the GS20 and 210 are comparable in weight and price. The G's are 1500+ pounds more and quite a bit more expensive.

        What would make the most sense to me is for Nautique to come up with a "Wake" hull for the GS boats; similar to what Malibu does. They could redesign the 210 to add underfloor ballast, but I don't see the point as the two models are already so similar that any redesign (100" beam, bigger bow) would only make them more similar. Benefits I see to the 210 is less use of seadek, better wakeboard wake and a taller tower. The convertible rear seating is gone on the current 210s. Benefits of the GS include underfloor ballast, updated LINC, better surfing, quicker acceleration, bigger bow area.


        2008 SAN 210
        1997 Sport Nautique

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        • cedarcreek216
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1009

          • Dallas, TX

          • 2018 210 2013 210 2009 216V

          #19
          Sales price are far more than a couple grand apart between the Gs20 and 210, and you are paying more for a 20' boat than you are a 21' boat so the price per foot number is quite a bit different. We can go back and forth all day, but time will truly tell.


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          • nautiques4life
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jan 2009
            • 696

            • SoCal

            • 2012 SANTE 230 Previous: 2005 SANTE 210 1997 OG Air Nautique

            #20
            I can't imagine Nautique without a 210. Maybe I'm the only one but I am not even considering a gs as a future option right now, the rear facing transom seats just look like a reason to be pulled over, and the videos showing the wake that i've seen haven't impressed me either. Anytime I hear crossover or all around... That tells me it does everything okay, but doesn't do an exceptional job at anything. As a wake first, ski never family... No interest in this line until myself or someone I trust says the wake beats the 210.

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            • swc5150
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2008
              • 2240

              • Eau Claire, WI

              • MasterCraft Prostar

              #21
              I'd keep my deposit on the 210. Taking everything else aside, it's just flat out a nicer looking boat. I just can't get over the 70's tri-hull look of the GS. Just my humble opinion
              '08 196LE (previous)
              '07 196LE (previous)
              2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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              • vanhanbr
                • Mar 2014
                • 223

                • Wisconsin

                • 2008 SAN 210

                #22

                I can understand a dealer not wanting to discount an in-stock GS as much as a 210 being that it is a new model, but it shouldn't really make any difference on a custom order. The retail prices are right on Nautique's website, it not like it's a big secret.

                We can agree on those rear facing transom seats; worst feature on the boat.

                I still stand by this advise.

                If you were only going to buy a new boat and were choosing between the 210 and gs20, get the gs20.
                If you already own a 210, I wouldn't advise selling it just to buy a GS, but ALOT of people are. (That's good for me, because I'm in the market for a used 210.)
                If I was a wake first, ski never family, I wouldn't buy a GS either. I would buy a used 210/230 in the $40-65K range or a G in the $80-100K range.

                But that's what I would do, everyone gets to make their own decision...can't really go wrong either way, its spitting hairs to some extent. They are all good boats.
                Last edited by vanhanbr; 04-06-2017, 04:37 PM.
                2008 SAN 210
                1997 Sport Nautique

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                • frosttflo24
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 3

                  • Alberta

                  • 2017 SAN 210

                  #23
                  Thanks for the input, unless the GS20 blows me away on the lake test I'm leaning towards the 210. I'm a tall guy and the bimini on the GS is pretty low, also the extra 10-15k in my pocket doesn't hurt.

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                  • lucky7t
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1306

                    • Oklahoma

                    • 2015 SANTE

                    #24
                    I hated to reply because I've said it plenty of times and caught blow back . The 210 is a killer boat . It surfs great , the wake is sick! It's easy to tow , easy to maneuver . Our family loves these boats . I've owned many of them . Wouldn't own anything else

                    We don't ski though . We wakeboard , surf , wakeskate and chill.


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                    Current Correct Craft Boat
                    [URL="http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/05/1e6128564805861d2625d7b7f8efd2f1.jpg"]2015 SANTE 210[/URL]

                    Correct Craft Boats Owned
                    [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=17771&d=1340117700"]2012 SANTE 210 (Boatmate Trailer)[/URL]
                    [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/attachment.php?attachmentid=14107&d=1313460568"]2003 SANTE 210 (Dorsey Trailer)[/URL]
                    [URL="http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/attachment.php?attachmentid=14108&d=1313461675"]2007 SANTE 210 (Magnum Trailer)[/URL]

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                    • scottb7
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2198

                      • Carson City, Nevada

                      • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                      #25
                      I agree with above!!! But sadly, that does not mean they sell...No one knows the numbers.

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                      • surroundsound64
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2147

                        • Longview, TX

                        • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vanhanbr View Post

                        The retail price between the two boats is within a couple thousand bucks. There really isn't any good reason why the GS20 would be substantially more on a custom ordered boat. In my mind, if the 210 is the entry level boat, it should be 20K less expensive.



                        Not really, the GS20 and 210 are comparable in weight and price. The G's are 1500+ pounds more and quite a bit more expensive.

                        What would make the most sense to me is for Nautique to come up with a "Wake" hull for the GS boats; similar to what Malibu does. They could redesign the 210 to add underfloor ballast, but I don't see the point as the two models are already so similar that any redesign (100" beam, bigger bow) would only make them more similar. Benefits I see to the 210 is less use of seadek, better wakeboard wake and a taller tower. The convertible rear seating is gone on the current 210s. Benefits of the GS include underfloor ballast, updated LINC, better surfing, quicker acceleration, bigger bow area.

                        I don't think with the way the 210/230s are made they can be altered to include sub floor ballast. If they did it, it would look like a G.
                        2018 SAN 230
                        1981 Ski Nautique
                        Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                        Sold - 2000 SAN

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                        • F725
                          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 381

                          • Minnesota

                          • 2018 G21

                          #27
                          We've owned 4 210's and a G21. The 210's throw killer surf waves with a little extra ballast. The G21 was awesome also but we love our 210's.

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                          • charlesml3
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 2454

                            • Lake Gaston, NC

                            • 2022 G23

                            #28
                            Originally posted by JoeA View Post
                            Lets be honest here....the 210s and 230s will disappear. Maybe they stay around another year but the GS boats are definitely outselling the 210 and 230 so their time will pass.
                            You keep saying that. ALL of them will disappear at some point.

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                            • jharris
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 243

                              • Michigan

                              • 2022 G23

                              #29
                              After demoing a GS20 and the GS22 I would not consider trading my 210 for a GS20. I also have access to a pure slalom boat so the ski benefit is of no value to me. For wakeboarding and surfing I'm able to get a better wake on my 210. Of course any wave is a personal preference. With the new electronics integration that Nautique did for the 210 in the 2018 models I don't see than going any where any time soon. A core group of people still really like those boats.


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                              • vacooley
                                • May 2017
                                • 58

                                • Allen, TX

                                • 2017 SAN 230; 2004 Malibu 23 LSV (sold)

                                #30
                                I purchased a 230 over a GS20, GS22 or G23. I preferred the size, appearance, and feature set as many 'traditionalists' do. My dealer sells all the 210s and 230s he can get. I also do not believe that Nautique would go to the trouble of reworking the dash and electronics if they planned to discontinue the models soon.


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