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  • xxrb2010
    • Jan 2014
    • 226

    • nc


    #31
    Everything said so far is pretty on point. Yes boats, on average, are a depreciating asset except for a few outliers mentioned in the thread, and they are costly to maintain and enjoy. My advice is: If you can pay cash for your boat and you do not have any other credit, aside a home, at least you will not have any issue with the banking system if your world goes south. This is the only advice I can give you. You are the only one who can make a call on which toys you want to buy. For everyone else, do not read this advice as a general advice to pay cash for a depreciating asset. In your case, I believe that makes sense as your saving history and other asset ownership history show that you have almost no history for both, so no facts to prove that you can pay back a loan. On the other side you can save for a cash payment in a couple of months.

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    • GMLIII
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • May 2013
      • 2799

      • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

      • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

      #32
      Originally posted by xxrb2010 View Post
      Everything said so far is pretty on point. Yes boats, on average, are a depreciating asset except for a few outliers mentioned in the thread, and they are costly to maintain and enjoy. My advice is: If you can pay cash for your boat and you do not have any other credit, aside a home, at least you will not have any issue with the banking system if your world goes south. This is the only advice I can give you. You are the only one who can make a call on which toys you want to buy. For everyone else, do not read this advice as a general advice to pay cash for a depreciating asset. In your case, I believe that makes sense as your saving history and other asset ownership history show that you have almost no history for both, so no facts to prove that you can pay back a loan. On the other side you can save for a cash payment in a couple of months.
      This is the most bizarre thread I have seen on this forum, but I agree 100% with your statement. I'm 55 now so I'm on the downhill slide with "Big Boy Toys" even though I still like them. Great advice for the young lads.

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      • Kenv
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jan 2004
        • 1070

        • Texas

        • 2021 G23 Previous 2015 G21 2010 226 2005 226 2000 Super Air

        #33
        WTF....who would have thought we'd see the day when we told someone that has $250,000......NOT to buy a USED Nautique because it would be cutting it close.....insane. BUT...if you have the crazy rap skillz.......I'd roll the GTR AND the G21. What do you want your legacy to be....Smart with nothing.....or a little coo coo with the Big Baller toys.......I kid....of course.......
        Last edited by Kenv; 05-16-2017, 09:36 PM.

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        • GMLIII
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • May 2013
          • 2799

          • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

          • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

          #34
          Still I would think someone would buy a house before a high end wakeboard boat. Come on now!


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          • Beg4wake
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Oct 2014
            • 563

            • Radford VA

            • 2016 Nautique G23. Masters Blue/Gunmetal Flake

            #35
            I'll give you some advice from a fellow in about the same situation as you. When I turned 29, I went from making 50-60k a year, to 200-250k a year. Only difference is that I had already bought a house (well the bank bought it and I'm currently purchasing it back), and I already have a few retirement plans set up. My honest advice to you, is like others have stated, talk to a financial adviser and set up some plans for retirement. Start that now! I personally would hold off on the boat for at least one more year. Keep saving. Then, after setting up a retirement, building a substantial safety net, and starting a house fund or at least buying a house...then buy the boat! I am definitely one to advocate for enjoying life for the moment because you're never promised tomorrow. At 34, I just purchased my first NEW boat and it was a fully loaded G23, and I don't regret it for one second. It's all about you being happy in life but also planning for the future!

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            • DaveNH
              • Oct 2010
              • 94

              • Concord, NH

              • '63 CC American Skier '98 Sport Nautique

              #36
              Outstanding post Beg4wake! Sound advice and congrats on your success and smart approach to planning at a fairly young age.

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              • macpres
                • Feb 2014
                • 94

                • ST Paul

                • Past: 2002 Nautique Super Air 2018 G23 2019 G23 2006 Wakesetter 247 2020 G23 2021 G23 2022 G23 2023 G23 2024 S23 2024 G23 2025 G23 2024 GS24 2005 Supra Launch 21V Current: 2025 G23, 2023 Malibu Response and 2005 SANTE

                #37
                If you really want it. Finance it and put enough down so you are even on the loan over time. Check average depreciation on bots and calculate it out. Worst comes to worst you can sell it for what you owe and be free and clear. Assuming the economy stays good. Boat will be worth half that if the economy goes south.

                It I were you, also in my early 30's making good money, and have a 2002 SANTE. I would not buy a house, live low, save as much as possible so someday when you have a family you don't still have to work your *** off to pay the bills on the inflated lifestyle you would have.

                Having a low monthly nut gives you amazing flexibility, especially as an entrepreneur.


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                • swc5150
                  1,000 Post Club Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 2240

                  • Eau Claire, WI

                  • MasterCraft Prostar

                  #38
                  A quick funny personal story (although not at the time), I bought a nice little lake home and a new Ski Nautique back in '07. Lost my butt on the house when I sold it, but made $3k on the 196. Anecdotal for sure, but the moral of my story is houses aren't always smart either. What's funny is people thought I was so smart for buying when interest rates and property values were so low, but stupid for buying the boat.
                  '08 196LE (previous)
                  '07 196LE (previous)
                  2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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                  • Jeff88
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 82

                    • Indy

                    • 2014 SAN 230

                    #39
                    Buy it and don't look back! Keep grinding and enjoy some of the best times of your life.


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                    • mgs917
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 182

                      • Lexington, SC

                      • 2000 SAN 210 - Sold

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Beg4wake View Post
                      I'll give you some advice from a fellow in about the same situation as you. When I turned 29, I went from making 50-60k a year, to 200-250k a year. Only difference is that I had already bought a house (well the bank bought it and I'm currently purchasing it back), and I already have a few retirement plans set up. My honest advice to you, is like others have stated, talk to a financial adviser and set up some plans for retirement. Start that now! I personally would hold off on the boat for at least one more year. Keep saving. Then, after setting up a retirement, building a substantial safety net, and starting a house fund or at least buying a house...then buy the boat! I am definitely one to advocate for enjoying life for the moment because you're never promised tomorrow. At 34, I just purchased my first NEW boat and it was a fully loaded G23, and I don't regret it for one second. It's all about you being happy in life but also planning for the future!
                      If the OP waits until next year, he should order a boat with the exact same gel and colors as yours! Ha, just wanted to give you a hard time for your other thread.

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                      • prowakeskater
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 58

                        • florida

                        • 03 SANTE

                        #41
                        decided to keep my current boat. got some water time with the prospective G and as awesome as it was, I didn't sense an extreme added benefit of the extra 100k

                        So instead, I'm sending my SANTE off to get a full detail on Monday. Thinking it will create a similar sense of satisfaction.

                        also did a small overhaul of my ballast system that has been giving me frequent issues lately which def encouraged my new boat desire...







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                        • markj
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1194

                          • NorCal

                          • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

                          #42
                          Smart move.

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                          • surroundsound64
                            1,000 Post Club Member
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 2147

                            • Longview, TX

                            • 2018 230 1981 Ski Nautique

                            #43
                            That's awesome. Keep it up and you'll be rollin hard later in life!!!
                            2018 SAN 230
                            1981 Ski Nautique
                            Sold - 2011 Sport 200V
                            Sold - 2000 SAN

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