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  • tdenton22
    • May 2017
    • 15

    • Northern Indiana

    • 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

    Help with surf setup for 05 SANTE

    I'm new to the forums, so please forgive me for asking a question that has probably already been asked. I'm spent the better part of the last couple hours searching for info on how to set up our 2005 SANTE to surf. As i am new to surfing, all the info is a little overwelming. We currently only have the stock ballast setup. I'm looking for advice on setups. What are most people running, do i need a different prop, etc. Are there certain threads that i should be reading? Any info, or pointing me in the right direction will be greatly appreciated!
  • rossrips7
    • Feb 2010
    • 233

    • Unknown


    #2
    Make a suck gate and start from there.


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    • Phil8uga
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Oct 2016
      • 381

      • Georgia

      • 1998 Air Nautique sold 2012 2005SANTE210 sold 2019 2019 GS20 H6

      #3
      I have the same boat and both port and starboard sides can be surfed with stock ballast with one adult and 2 small kids in the boat. I recently purchased the swell wakesurf and made surfing easier since I do not have to lean the boat anymore and the wave is bigger. If after market ballast was added I could imagine it would be a good improvement. I have 2 props and both work fine. I don't think prop effects surf wave as much as it does pull power. Feel free to PM me your cell and we can discuss further. Enjoy your boat!


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      • glp86
        • May 2015
        • 49

        • Denver, CO

        • 2000 SAN

        #4
        Originally posted by rossrips7 View Post
        Make a suck gate and start from there.


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        Ditto on the suck gate. I put 750's in the back, 500+ in the locker, 500 up front, biggest prop I could run (Acme 1616) and still never could get the surf wave good enough to go ropeless. We were in the same boat as you (2000 SAN) and had never surfed. Spent a whole summer messing with it and never got it down. Next summer I built a suck gate and it was a game changer. I now fill the 750's to about 60-70% and fill the bag in the ski locker full. I haven't used the bow sack since building the suck gate which is great. I had planned to build a fancy ballast puppy system but now I really doubt I ever will. Suck gate is a game changer.

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        • Phil8uga
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Oct 2016
          • 381

          • Georgia

          • 1998 Air Nautique sold 2012 2005SANTE210 sold 2019 2019 GS20 H6

          #5
          I don't know what surfboard you have, but IMO Surfboard selection will be very important.


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          • hondaprlud
            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
            • Jul 2008
            • 568

            • OH-IO


            #6
            I started surfing my 04 SANTE back in 08 (pre suck gates). Search some of my posts I shared my ballast setup many times. Sold that boat in 14 so I can't remember now.

            +1 on board selection. We could never ride ropeless with my first starter board. But when I upgraded to the Inland Surfer sweet spot it was a bit of a game changer. I think I started a thread about that too.


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            08 SANTE 210 ZR6
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            • prowakeskater
              • Aug 2016
              • 58

              • florida

              • 03 SANTE

              #7
              suck gate and done. Boat responds beautifully at nearly every weight

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              • tdenton22
                • May 2017
                • 15

                • Northern Indiana

                • 2005 Super Air Nautique Team Edition

                #8
                Seems like suck gate is the way to go. Any certain brand better than others?

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                • prowakeskater
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 58

                  • florida

                  • 03 SANTE

                  #9
                  I'm hearing good things about nauticurl, and its priced nicely

                  I use a mission delta because I often ride in salt, and the delta has no corrosive parts

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                  • rossrips7
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 233

                    • Unknown


                    #10
                    Spend 40-50 bucks and make one if you've got some standard household tools! There's a great instruction forum on here.


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                    • Brichter14
                      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 531

                      • Central Illinois

                      • 97 Nautique Super Sport 2010 Wakesetter 23 LSV 2020 Nautique G23

                      #11
                      We have been surfing the same hull for three years now. 750 on surf side 680 in locker and 400 in the nose. People on surf side and go 9.8 mph I built a suckgate this winter and plan to use it this year. It that setup works. I surf both goofy and regular and i never have trouble going ropeless

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                      • markj
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1194

                        • NorCal

                        • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

                        #12
                        I removed the hard tank and put a 750 in back. Then I put an 1100 in the cabin. All stock ballast was full. We only surfed goofy. It made a really nice surf wake. That was before any wake shaping device was around.

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                        • dhanni848
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 252

                          • Nashville, TN

                          • 13 Super air 230 Team Edition 03 Super Air 210 Team Edition - Sold 88 Mastercraft TriStar 220 - Sold

                          #13
                          I am newer here too and got an 03 SANTE this year. Stock ballast, no upgrades, and no gates. Last weekend I surfed with no rope successfully a few times(2nd time surfing ever). I weigh about 165 and was using a liquid force fiver 4-8, so not a large board either. Was I 20ft behind the boat..no, but it can be done! There were 3 other adults sitting on port side, filled port rear and center full. I do have a sucgate I made for about $35 that I will be trying next go out to see what magic happens.

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                          • SurfingCane
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 144

                            • Raleigh, NC

                            • `13 G23

                            #14
                            Here's what I use to do with my '04 SANTE when I first got it and started surfing. I would fill the rear locker factory tank of the side we were going to surf on. Then fill a 750 sac on top of that factory tank. Fill the belly tank completely. Leave the non-surf side rear locker tank empty. Have 1-2 adults about 160-200 lbs. (for a longer wave) sit up front..... and GO. Was pretty decent and had no problems letting go of the rope. But! It got really frustrating trying to dump all that ballast in the rear locker to move it over to the other side to switch surf sides. So I put the GoSurfAssit system on it and upgraded the ballast system. Now I can switch sides at the push of a button. Suckgates are awesome but you can't transition sides while surfing like you can with an automated system.
                            Here's my boat.....
                            https://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/6084654580.html
                            KEEP
                            CALM
                            AND
                            WAKESURF
                            ON

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                            • Phil8uga
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 381

                              • Georgia

                              • 1998 Air Nautique sold 2012 2005SANTE210 sold 2019 2019 GS20 H6

                              #15
                              How many pounds of ballast does the stock hard tanks hold? Hard belly tank? And rear port and starboard tanks?


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