Dialing in Wakboarding Wake 2014 210

[jondavis08]

I'm getting close to getting the wake how I want it but I know there has to be right combo out there. I have 2x 850's for the pro ballast and 550 bow sac piggybacked. I currently have been riding with the default pro ballast setting and adding a little to the bow sac. Around 23 mph, Hyrdo gate disengaged. My buddy(who is much better than me) wants the biggest wake he can get. I've been filling everything full and riding 24. Any feedback on what others are using? I love the pop on this boat but want to get the wake locked in.

[swatguy]

What line length are you riding. 23.5 is the sweet spot at 70-75ft. 70 seems to give you way more pop and a harder meatier lip, but if you're charging super hard it may lead you to the flats so up it to 75


I started my 210 at 24.5mph with an 80ft line when I was first dialing it in as that is what's ineode for years. My first impression with the wake at that speed and length were blah. I dropped the speed and started shortening the line length. It really really Gave the wake so much more meat dropping it to 23. It took a bit to get used to riding that much slower and with bit less rope, but I am in love now with the wake . It also let me ease off a bit on the edge and helped me ride longer each set . Keep in mind I am not doing double inverts. Just your basic scarecrows, bankrolls, tantrums , toe side fronts , and 3's

[jondavis08]

Sorry forgot the length, I've been riding at 70. Thanks, Swat!

[mmmbort]

I have an 09 210, ride 21.7 at 70'
Previous setup, 1433 prop, pulled the stock tanks in the back and have 750's in there to replace, then stock tank up front plus a 650 arrow sac under floor. It doesn't completely fill.
New setup, 1617 prop already installed this year and it's sweet. Tomorrow I'm installing 1100's in the back. Front same as before but adding another 650 under the seats. I also don't expect this to fill completely.

I did a test test the other night using friends bags to simulate the above new setup and it was insane. My 1433 prop could have never done it.

[bandit628]

Does the 650 arrow sac under the bow floor fill all the way?

[jondavis08]

Yeah, 1617 makes a huge difference. I'm wondering if I need some more weight in the belly... I tried to open the floor plan the other day and chipped away some of the gel coat. Makes me paranoid to try again. Or slowing it down. 21.7 seems really slow but if you get the wake set up right...

[swatguy]

Does the 650 arrow sac under the bow floor fill all the way?

the arrow sac on a 210 won't even fill to half way. The regular tube sac from fly high is the best option for the 210. Especially for half the cost of an arrow sac. The arrow sac was specifically designed for the 230.

[Flyindutchman]

the arrow sac on a 210 won't even fill to half way. The regular tube sac from fly high is the best option for the 210. Especially for half the cost of an arrow sac. The arrow sac was specifically designed for the 230.

Would you put the tube sac under the front seats or just lay on the floor exposed? I have one of those from my old boat that I could use, I was just worried about having too much weight in the bow.

[bandit628]

the arrow sac on a 210 won't even fill to half way. The regular tube sac from fly high is the best option for the 210. Especially for half the cost of an arrow sac. The arrow sac was specifically designed for the 230.

Thanks swat.

I put a 300 tube under there and it seems to fill about all the way. I also have 200 lb of lead under the bow seats, this is nice because it leaves room for storage.

With all that full to 80 percent full I run the 1100s in the back about half. This seemed to give me a good wake at 22mph, at 65 to 70ft.

I couldn't fill up much more than that or at 22 it wouldn't clean up. I am toying with the idea of swapping out the 1100s with 750s. That way I know the level in the ballast better. Plus with the nss both 1100s sink my 2012 too deep for them to be effective.

I doubt I ever speed up much past 22mph for wakeboarding, that's just where I am comfortable at. Think I will miss the added capacity of the 1100s?

[mmmbort]

I'll try and get a video tonight. Forecast looks promising.
No complaints on the 750's, we just started going heavier and heavier last season and I'm trying to replicate without taking up too much room. I don't have nss so I can't comment on sinking too much.
As far as speed, I personally like the wake at a slower speed, and the falls tend to hurt less which is always a good thing.
For the guys saying the wake is too washy at that slow of speed, do you guys run ramp or vert?

[cedarcreek216]

It sure if the '14 is different than our '13, but I put the tube sac in the ski locker, it fills the void left by the tank perfectly and fills up completely.


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[mmmbort]

Had 9 in the boat so couldn't fill the 1100s completely, I'd say 75% or so full,The fronts with however much they take. Was a lot of fun, very happy with the upgrades. My timing was a little off on the more technical tricks but I just wasn't used to having so much time.
Didn't have time to surf but will try this weekend.

Here's a pic of my buddy, 21.7 @ 70' vert on the hydro gate. The wake starts to roll just behind him.

[bandit628]

Had 9 in the boat so couldn't fill the 1100s completely, I'd say 75% or so full,The fronts with however much they take. Was a lot of fun, very happy with the upgrades. My timing was a little off on the more technical tricks but I just wasn't used to having so much time.
Didn't have time to surf but will try this weekend.

Here's a pic of my buddy, 21.7 @ 70' vert on the hydro gate. The wake starts to roll just behind him.

I have the 1579 prop. I doubt at 22mph mine would have cleaned up with that much weight. Can prop effect the cleaness of the wake?

Even though boat is same speed, the water being pushed by the prop is being pushed differently.

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[mmmbort]

I'm not sure, I never really noticed a difference as I changed props, but I was never looking for it either. I've heard other people say it changed their surf waves so if that is true than I'd imagine it could change the wake wave as well.
You'd definitely have to change from the 1579 if you were going to increase the weight a bunch. For me it took a while to plane out with the 750's.

[swatguy]

I have the 1579 prop. I doubt at 22mph mine would have cleaned up with that much weight. Can prop effect the cleaness of the wake?

Even though boat is same speed, the water being pushed by the prop is being pushed differently.

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Yes a prop can can effect the shape and cleanliness of the wake. However in your specific case probably not much going to happen in that arena. But that 1579 is garbage for a ballasted Boat. I know that was the "factory team " wakeboard prop , but do yourself a favor and grab a 1617. As much as you guys ride and are loaded up, learning new tricks and progressing. Your fuel savings in 2 weekends from the hole shot improvement will pay the the prop. It transforms the 210 hole
shot. At 22 mph you're pretty close right now to the max ballast . If you bump it up to 23-23.5 you can get away with little more in the rear.


houre def right about not filling them all the way with NSS . Especially on the regulars side/ port wave. Less is actually more with the NSS if you're using it. However for me on the goofy side I can almost fill completely and still use NSS.