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  • charlesml3
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2454

    • Lake Gaston, NC

    • 2022 G23

    #31
    Originally posted by sbaird4000 View Post
    We ended up replacing the 400 pound rear sacs with wakemakers exact fit 650's and added a sac under the seats in the bow as well. I will say however, we rarely ever use the bow sac. We also added 500 pounds of leadwake which is distributed 100 pounds on the starboard side and 400 pounds on the port side. The surf wave is beyond amazing! Our 2 favorite settings thus far are rear 650's full, midship / bow sub floor tank full, 400 pounds of lead wake on the port side spread (250 lbs under the 650 sac) and (150 lbs under the rear seat as far back as possible) NSS 1 or 2, hydrogate at 2, cruise at 11.2. The other setting is exactly the same with the exception that we set the NSS at 4, Hyrdrogate at 3 or 2 (adjusted to clean up the wave) and the cruise set at 10.4. The first setting produces a very long wave with a huge amount of push far back and a massive pocket. The second setting produces a very tall and steep wave that isn't nearly as long but still has a great amount of push. Hope this helps you! Enjoy your boat, we sure do love ours!
    I weight EXACTLY the same as this except I'm using all leadwake shot bags instead of the 650s. I really like keeping some storage space in the back. At least once a summer I get someone on the dock who says "Oh, you should have bought the [whatever]. It surfs BETTER!" I don't really reply. I just get them out surfing behind my boat and that shuts them up quickly.

    -Charles

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    • kylant
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • May 2010
      • 540

      • Lake Tahoe

      • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

      #32
      Originally posted by Chuckfzs View Post
      Kylant....you mentioned you have a GS with pro ballast. I have seen the surf wake without the pro ballast. Is it a huge improvement? I don’t need the extra storage so I would love your feedback on surfing. Thanks in advance.
      I have yet to pick up my boat, it is still at the dealer. We are having a winter that will not quit. I still have 4ft of snow in some parts of my yard. We are supposed to get more snow tonight
      I am sure the pro ballast will make the wave better. I also got the H6 so I should be able to add more weight if needed, but I also don't want to compromise the ski wake

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      • Paul W
        • Oct 2010
        • 45

        • Lower Fox River IL

        • 2017 SAN230 Coastal Edition

        #33
        I have a 2017 230 and it came with the factory rear hard tanks and the piggy back bags on top of them. Not sure how much weight that is in total? Are the factory tanks 400 each and the bags on top 200??

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        • charlesml3
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2454

          • Lake Gaston, NC

          • 2022 G23

          #34
          The pro ballast bags are 400 pounds each. I think the rear hard tanks are 500 pounds each making the belly tank 300 pounds.


          Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique

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          • Dock4
            • Jul 2019
            • 3

            • Cincinnati


            #35
            Originally posted by kylant View Post

            I have yet to pick up my boat, it is still at the dealer. We are having a winter that will not quit. I still have 4ft of snow in some parts of my yard. We are supposed to get more snow tonight
            I am sure the pro ballast will make the wave better. I also got the H6 so I should be able to add more weight if needed, but I also don't want to compromise the ski wake
            Have you had a chance to surf behind the boat with the pro ballast?

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            • kylant
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2010
              • 540

              • Lake Tahoe

              • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

              #36
              Originally posted by Dock4 View Post

              Have you had a chance to surf behind the boat with the pro ballast?
              yes.

              it surfs great. full ballast and 3-12 people in the boat, it's great. H6 has no problems
              i am pretty sure I will be swapping the pro ballast 350# bags for the wakemakers 800# bags. I am moving and the lake elevation will be about 4300 ft less.
              Boat will handle the weight no problem.
              I still ski, if I didn't though, I would buy a G23

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              • Adrenaline1
                • Jan 2018
                • 199

                • MI

                • 2019 GS22

                #37
                Originally posted by kylant View Post

                yes.

                it surfs great. full ballast and 3-12 people in the boat, it's great. H6 has no problems
                i am pretty sure I will be swapping the pro ballast 350# bags for the wakemakers 800# bags. I am moving and the lake elevation will be about 4300 ft less.
                Boat will handle the weight no problem.
                I still ski, if I didn't though, I would buy a G23
                I know I asked someone, don't recall if it was you so sorry if I already did. Any tips for dialing in the ski wake, rope length, speed, etc.? If I have a spotter and 2 others in the boat where should they sit? thanks

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                • kylant
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • May 2010
                  • 540

                  • Lake Tahoe

                  • 2014 210 2019 GS22, 2017 GS20, 2000 Air Nautique

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Adrenaline1 View Post

                  I know I asked someone, don't recall if it was you so sorry if I already did. Any tips for dialing in the ski wake, rope length, speed, etc.? If I have a spotter and 2 others in the boat where should they sit? thanks
                  I have only skied the boat once. My wife (driver) was the only person in the boat
                  The boat had a noticeable list to the driver's side. This is due to both her weight and the prop rotation.
                  I would say, try evenly distributing the weight of the passengers, but you may have to put an extra 150-200# of people on the port side to counter the prop rotation.

                  I found 22' off put me right behind the rooster tail. I ski generally at 32 mph. The bump there was much softer than on the GS20 I had last summer.

                  I just put the LInc on slalom mode, ski assist: on
                  Last edited by kylant; 07-20-2019, 06:55 AM.

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                  • GMLIII
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2797

                    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                    #39
                    Originally posted by kylant View Post

                    I have only skied the boat once. My wife (driver) was the only person in the boat
                    The boat had a noticeable list to the driver's side. This is due to both only her weight and the prop rotation.
                    I would say, try evenly distributing the weight of the passengers, but you may have to put an extra 150-200# of people on the port side to counter the prop rotation.

                    I found 22' off put me right behind the rooster tail. I ski generally at 32 mph. The bump there was much softer than on the GS20 I had last summer.

                    I just put the LInc on slalom mode, ski assist: on
                    Not that we ski behind our G23 often but when someone does we make sure the rope is alway 75 feet to get the skier behind the rooster tail. Most competition or high quality ski ropes with 5 ft handle bridles come in for a total lenght of 60 feet which is just not long enough to get past the rooster tail. There are 15 foot extender ropes wihich I purchased to get the total rope lenght to 75 feet.

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                    • mcosub
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 235

                      • Orlando

                      • 2020 GS22 2017 SANTE 210

                      #40
                      Was on my neighbors NEW 2019 GS22 over the weekend and I thought the surf wave was extremely good. I have a 2017 210 and I would say without a doubt that the wave was better than my boat.

                      He said with the NCRS, it really improves handling of the boat. The tower does seem a little low but that was corrected on the 2020 model I am told

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