New 210 for 2007??

[YoungLifeSkiMission]

Hey all,
Is CC designing a new 210 for next year? I heard it will be wider, with a new hull?
Does anyone know?
I heard that they will stop producing soon to re design moulds etc.
I did hear from a good source, so Its not a rumour, just want to know what they have planned for them.

[AbunDiga909]

RE: New 210 for 2007??

Nice, so the discussion and rumors about next year's models begins...

I heard that as for the 210, they will not be chaning it much, structually, mostly asthetically (sp?). They considered that boat "done," but will be creating new boats that will not be the "new 210."

[Laptom]

RE: New 210 for 2007??

Haha, indeed AbunDiga... Silly season starts again.

I hope that they don't change the 210 much.
- Make it a bit cleaner (no tribal graphics, or the option from more then 1 graphics).
- Make the tower a little bit smaller and less eye catching.
- Integrate a nice swivel board rack system a la Mastercraft without straps and not the add-on, aftermarket look like now.
- Change the ballast system for draining out of the sides instead of bottom.
- Place the sub at the drivers feet for a little bit more storage.

If they would come with this 210 I'm gonna order a 2007 210 this winter as an upgrade for our 2000 SAN and 2004 X2.

[DRAGON88]

RE: New 210 for 2007??

I hope they fix the 2006's instead of ruining the 210's... I really think it would be a bad move for CC to change the 210 aesthetically wise even, personally I'm not a huge fan of the way things have been going in the style department the last few years. I'm guessing that the 210 is still their best selling boat, IMO 2003 was still the best year for the 210. Then again none of this matters, I haven't seen CC listen to it's customers ONCE about what they want changed.

[Erik]

Dragon88 I have. They got so much flack for that 2004 bent FCT monstrosity that they changed it back for the 2005 FCT's. Then they went and changed it AGAIN for 2006 Yellow_Flash_Colorz:. But there is now new management installed at Correct Craft so hopefully they are listening. I have been talking back and forth with Terry Dunagin and have on several occasions made my personal reccomendations.

I agree with the hopes that they dont mess with the 210 too much. It has been messed with too much already! I think 2002-2003 was the best year for the 210, and the boat has just been all over the place since then in terms of accessories and needless tweaks. One little thing I just noticed is the stereo placement on the newer 210s. Whoever decided that the passenger side cooler was a good spot to mount the stero needs to have their head examined. What an absolutely royal pain in the *** that must be to deal with. That would drive me crazy.

Look, in a perfect world, Correct Craft would release a lengthened, widened, Python powered Super Sport hull. Not a crossover boat. I wouldn't mind seeing it approach 25 feet. They need something to compete with the 24lsv. Thats what I would like to see them do, and it was what I expected the 220 to be. It isn't. So we wait. I actually don't expect to see any major bombs being dropped this year, but next year who knows what they'll do. But I am absolutely certian they are listening more now than in previous years.

[bkhallpass]

Re: RE: New 210 for 2007??

I'm guessing that the 210 is still their best selling boat, .

You could be right. In September, Gary Meloon told me that the 211 was the best selling in the line. BKH

[DRAGON88]

The FCT changed back in 2005, true, but aside from that and stickers (they put the "super air" back on the 210 mid 2003) I think those two examples are far cries from any kind of customer feedback.

Anyways, if they screw up the 210 hull for 2007 they will have lost at least one sale. I think that the 210 sells because it doesn't have the weird lines of the 226, 220 and 211.

[Erik]

I also heard that the 211 was the boat that kicked the most *** for them, in terms of sales figures.
Dragon88 I agree with you in principle. The lines of the 210 are distinctive, and distinctly not weird. That newer tower adds too much weirdness for me personally. I see what you are saying... I just believe they are paying closer attention nowadays.

[AbunDiga909]

I think the 210 sells due to its simplicity to wakeboarding--nothing else. If I had unlimited funds, I'd have a 196, a 210, and a 220. I do NOT see the 220 as a replacable boat for the 210, they are too different. I don't even see the 210 as a party boat. Its too small, only holds 10, doesn't have THAT much seating (compared to 24lsv and XStar), and is in need of a beefier engine, even the ZR6 doesn't quite cut it for blowing everything out of the water. They need to bring back the Python, IMHO. This is why if I had a 210, it'd be used for small crowds who just want to go out for a ride w/ the best wake, nothing else.

Graphics were not boat-specific in '03. In '03, the whole "AIR 216/210/etc..." in the stern of the boat changed. Then, it would say 'AIR NAUTIQUE 216' or 'SUPER AIR NAUTIQUE 210'. In '04, they got rid of the long names, and cut it to 'AIR 216' and 'AIR 210', if I'm correct.. Personally, I like it. Keep it short and simple. More people will remember "AIR 210" more than "SUPER AIR NAUTIQUE 210".

[DRAGON88]

Early 2003's (As I said they put "Super" back on in mid to late 2003. Due to public demand.) 2006 is the first year since that has stripped the 210 of it's "Super Air" badging. Personally I think more people know what a Super Air Nautique is vs an Air 210.

That said I think anyone in the know will understand that the real SAN is still the 210. I have yet to see the 220 refrenced as a "SAN" I understand that they are trying to market the 220 to the wakeboard market. I wouldn't be all that suprised to see the 210 rebadged again as the 210. Or atleast to see them drop the Super Air graphic off of the 220...

Also I missed the sterio comment the first go around, I actually don't mind it at all. I have my ipod cable running around the bow so my ipod is on the drivers side. The remote really has all the features I need to use commonly. There's never been a good location for the CD player it seems. On our '99 216 you had to tilt the steering wheel up to get a CD in... In the 00-02 models you had to contort your body to get anything into the CD player, not to mention it's vunerable position. There just doesn't seem to be a good place for it.

[AbunDiga909]

There was a guy on wakeworld who got a 220, but didn't like the super air graphic, so he put the AIR logo on it. To me, that logo is definately too small for that boat, and as nice as it was to see that logo reappear on another boat, it just didn't look right. CC should use the "NAUTIQUE" logo that comes on the non-airs more often, that is the nicest IMHO.

[Erik]

This topic has legs.

There is no way the 220, in its current form, replaces the 210. Period.

In other news I just saw a picture of the Malibu 247. Seriously if Correct Craft dosen't come out with something like it, they are nutzoid.

[ag4ever]

I heard that they were going to do away with the 196, make the 206 into a true hardcore ski boat, and do away with the 210 in favor of the new 235.

The 220 will still be the "Suer Air" but the 235 will now be the "Super Duper Air"

[AbunDiga909]

Yellow_Flash_Colorz: Yellow_Flash_Colorz:

[patoloco]

It, seems that the 210 hull is universally loved among boarders...having said that, the biggest complaint is storage space. layout, etc.

I still can't understand why they wouldn't just take the 210 hull design, keep it to scale and increase the length/width to get the same wake in a larger boat. Without the hydrogate or other things...and then market it as the same ole Super Air you know and love...just bigger.

The problem is...even if a new boat has a great wake, but a different hull..and is technically close to the 210 ....it will still suffer the "but its not a 210 wake" anyway.

Having said that, I'll have enough trouble finding the $$ to buy the current 210...let alone a new and improved one. haha