Is my dealer trying to get rid of me?

[wakemaker]

i am trying to get 15% offf and cant get that done guess its just me lol i never get the good deals my name is full boat get it

[Chris5084]

Sounds like this dealer isn't interested in selling you a boat at 24% off. If I want to get sell something, I call potential buyers back.

Is 5% worth it to develop a new relationship with a dealership?


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[kmarine]

FIRST, A DEALER WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING TO GET YOU IN THE DOOR. Some may offer a better price and have higher document fees etc , some insist on other add on or options or packages not included or mentioned over the phone. as a sales rep myself, I have a set minimum take it or leave it when there is no longer enough profit to cover my overhead. some dealerships have different overhead than others. If I sell below this margin I loose money. Why sell to you if someone else will pay my price. Most dealers have allocated number of units available. Unless there is a need to liquidate current inventory fast before interest payments are due. Most likely the dealer has a firm bottom line.

[Neverenough]

I've felt the same way a time or two. Timing is the issue. Someone said it "make hay" and dealers have a short window to gross as much as possible. Especially in Northern states!! If your not in a rush hit them up in off season and they maybe willing to help you out. Someone else stated allocation and I believe that could feed into this deal. Nautique safe in high demand right now and this dealer may not get many.

Be patient and it will workout or another dealer will sell you a. boat. I would mention Buxton but inventory is slim!! Good time to be a Nautique dealer I suppose. Good for them they have had a few rough years.

[wakemaker]

i think Neverenough has if right this is the high time of the season and $ are high right now , the 18 are starting to get ordered at 5% over last year why did i get the g in march lol
i got a 230 for sale lol think my boat will sell in the next month and have the next one from a boat show trade. get a 16 in the winter then crank it back up for the summer again in the spring
hay Neverenough give me a call lost my last phone with your # mabey u can help me u seem to get alll the good deals from Phil lol ill pm u my #

[tmb]

FIRST, A DEALER WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING TO GET YOU IN THE DOOR. Some may offer a better price and have higher document fees etc , some insist on other add on or options or packages not included or mentioned over the phone. as a sales rep myself, I have a set minimum take it or leave it when there is no longer enough profit to cover my overhead. some dealerships have different overhead than others. If I sell below this margin I loose money. Why sell to you if someone else will pay my price. Most dealers have allocated number of units available. Unless there is a need to liquidate current inventory fast before interest payments are due. Most likely the dealer has a firm bottom line.

I completely understand that you have to have enough profit to cover your overhead and at a certain point it doesn't make sense to sell the boat. If that's the best they can do then I have to determine if I'm willing to spend extra to keep working with them. It seems like there should be a middle ground but who knows. The bigger issue I have in all of this is the lack of follow up from them, that is what makes me think they would rather lose me as a customer. I shouldn't be the one reminding them that they need to get back to me. They are responsive in service but responsiveness in sales could be dramatically improved.

[wakemaker]

call nautique about that , but the 21 over 24 % is what 2850 on a 210 , on a g23 now thats where it can hurt u lol the 8 i am getting and the 21 your getting 20080 now that a fight i have to fight theirs another 1556 in just taxes so that went to 21632 lol runnnnnn
**** if u can get 24% off buy it and sell it in the fall boat show time and u can make money right now with the 5% there going up.
a 2017 at 130000 out the door the 16 wheree selling at 136000 around hear

[mgs917]

Quick question, would another dealer still get in trouble for selling to the OP. It seems his dealer isn't contacting him, so why should another dealer suffer if they are willing to work with him?

[surroundsound64]

If you show up on an out of area dealer's door step, they have the right to sell you a boat. I think it's more an issue of one dealer advertising in another's area.

[lucky7t]

I hesitated in here to post the exact same story . I've bought 6 new and now it's no longer the discount I was getting . Personally here's how I feel about it ...

Dealer says "it's just business , we're not going to discount anymore than xxx"

I say "it's just business , I'm going somewhere else " as far as servicing goes if any dealer pushes you off because you didn't buy there then contact nautique or pm me and I'll send you a contact for a nautique rep

Just to clarify 100% my post does not refer to Buxton.




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[markj]

If you show up on an out of area dealer's door step, they have the right to sell you a boat. I think it's more an issue of one dealer advertising in another's area.

Actually, the local dealer has the right to demand a percentage of the sales price from the non-local selling dealer. It's part of the territory agreement all dealers have with Nautique.

[tmb]

Actually, the local dealer has the right to demand a percentage of the sales price from the non-local selling dealer. It's part of the territory agreement all dealers have with Nautique.

Is that a fact? I've heard it in here before but nowhere else.

[surroundsound64]

I've never heard that. But I have heard dealers throw a fit about out of area sales from other dealers. If this is the case, I would happily let other dealers do the leg work.

[Tallredrider]

If you show up on an out of area dealer's door step, they have the right to sell you a boat. I think it's more an issue of one dealer advertising in another's area.

You must have a zip code for a billing address in the dealer's territory, or they are in violation of the dealer agreement. What is considered non-current inventory, which can be sold to anyone, I am not sure.

If I understand correclty, then your buddy got quotes for 24% off of existing 2017 inventory, and you are getting quotes for new 2018 inventory, which might explain the difference.

I agree, the worst part is they haven't bothered to have the human decency to tell you no, or come back with 21.1% off

[ironpeddler]

Actually, the local dealer has the right to demand a percentage of the sales price from the non-local selling dealer. It's part of the territory agreement all dealers have with Nautique.

Demand and actually have to pay cause it is in the contract are 2 different things I wonder what's actually the case. No one actually knows or if they know they aren't willing to tell.

I am going through purchasing a new boat and can tell you I can never get a straight answer on how nautique dealerships work. They can sell out of their territory, they cant sell out of their territory. They will be fined thousands of dollars if this or that happens, they may or may not service you if you do not buy the boat from them. It is never the same or a straight answer. And this forum is a perfect example for this. At least a few different people have said a few different things about what they can/cant do etc....sorry for not taking the time to quote them all. So what is actually the freaking deal...do any of us consumers actually know or just think we know because of what a dealer told us??? lol

I am only shopping the G23 and comparable boats so I do not know much if anything about pricing on other nautique models. But the G23, normal pricing, not getting a hookup or anything, is tens of thousands of dollars more than a Tige or Malibu, and other comparable models...maybe mastercraft x23 is priced close to g23, but for the most part the g23 is tens of thousands more than competitors. There are reasons it is more expensive and I am willing to pay more for it, to a certain point....but when you are paying that much I feel the dealer/dealer network should be top notch also and that just doesn't seem to be the case. The dealer network for other boats probably isn't that great either but they are thousands less. My local dealer also sells Malibu...like that isn't a conflict of interests. And the other nautique dealers I have talked to out of state have given me ridiculous pricing, so ridiculous that they are basically telling me they don't want to sell me a boat. I can take a hint. It really does suck when you are spending this much money and you feel that you are being forced to spend it at a certain place. And the local nautique dealers know this so of course they are jacking up the prices cause they know chances are slim you can go anywhere else.

From the shopping I have been doing IMHO, 21% off seems to be a decent deal...not the best but far from the worst deal they could offer. If you are actually getting 24% quoted over the phone then I would say go with that, maybe you could get a little more in person. I also feel like 21% from your local dealer is ok so in my opinion I don't think you could go wrong on either one.