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  • ironj32
    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
    • May 2011
    • 601

    • Lake Sarah (Independence), MN

    • 2018 SAN G23 XR550

    #91
    I think one thing to note is that the base engine on the G is 450hp. The base engine on the XStar is 365hp. To get to the 435hp engine is a $7100 upgrade. So if you're comparing the equivalent engine of a base G23, the XStar really starts out at $162,440.
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    • Wayward
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2013
      • 424

      • Northeast

      • 2022 XStar

      #92
      Originally posted by ironj32 View Post
      I think one thing to note is that the base engine on the G is 450hp. The base engine on the XStar is 365hp. To get to the 435hp engine is a $7100 upgrade. So if you're comparing the equivalent engine of a base G23, the XStar really starts out at $162,440.
      ok, so we want to match up standard features? Let's chase that a little.....

      XStar comes with the premium audio as standard (dash speakers, extra amp, extra sub, etc), integrated wind dam door, armrests, go pro mounts..... but doesn't have gen2 standard.

      so let's say we want the boats equal out of the gate. 6.2 liter engines, surf system, and the same interior features, and at least throw a Bimini on it, right out of the box. At this point, the G23 comes in at 170,844, and the XStar is 169,910.


      Now let's throw the upgraded tower speakers on..... this brings the Star to 176,630.00 and the G to 176284.00


      And now, maybe you wanna add some style, so you throw on the upgraded windshield and tower accents. This brings the Star to 177540.00 and the G to 179949.00

      And then, to be a little more fair, we will upgrade the flooring in the XStar to Deckadance, instead of carpet. That brings the Star up to 178,850.00


      nonetheless, you can put some stuff on, and take some stuff off...... they are gonna run extremely close on like-optioned examples. Freakishly close. These boats are definitely priced to compete with each other. If you start adding other things like the heater, heated seats, some flake, filler cushions, etc., they still come out with 1-2% of each other.

      The Star can get more expensive than the G...... but only if you start adding features that you can't get on a G.
      Last edited by Wayward; 09-21-2017, 02:37 PM.

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      • Kmayotte
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Apr 2010
        • 819

        • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

        • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

        #93
        Wayward


        Put well made. My only addition is that you cannot compare carpet and the seadeck stock on a G. You have to add the decadence to make them equal.

        What options can you get on the X-Star that there is not suitable equal on a G? Stern Thruster = Dock Star. Surf Select available on G but not on X-Star.

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        • Wayward
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Apr 2013
          • 424

          • Northeast

          • 2022 XStar

          #94
          Originally posted by Kmayotte View Post
          Wayward


          Put well made. My only addition is that you cannot compare carpet and the seadeck stock on a G. You have to add the decadence to make them equal.

          What options can you get on the X-Star that there is not suitable equal on a G? Stern Thruster = Dock Star. Surf Select available on G but not on X-Star.
          More flake options (up to 4 different panel combos), Power tower, additional racks, rear docking lights, clear bra on the back of the boat, speaker light rings, cool feel vinyl, flip up sunpad lounge. Might be a couple others...... but that's what I got off the top of my head.

          i definitely agree that deckadance should be selected for a fair comparison. That puts the Star a few dollars more, all the way up through. But still neck and neck on these two boats.

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          • GMLIII
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2013
            • 2798

            • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

            • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

            #95
            Power tower and cool feel vinyl would be nice addition to the Nautique line-up of options

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            • ironj32
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • May 2011
              • 601

              • Lake Sarah (Independence), MN

              • 2018 SAN G23 XR550

              #96
              No denying that the prices are very close, if you were to option the G with all of the goodies that come standard on the XStar.

              For how I personally would option a G vs XStar, I think the difference is more like $13,500 more for the XStar (still not that much when you're talking $170k+). MSRP on the XStar for me is $184880. The G that I would get is $171,294. That puts them at nearly identical builds, except the G doesn't have the fancy stereo, no bow arm rests, and no pocket door...none of which you can remove from the XStar (from what i see on the builder at least) - if you could I think the price would be within $2-$3k of each other.

              Would this keep me from buying an XStar? Not at all - If the wake on this new beast is that of the G, and then some.
              Last edited by ironj32; 09-21-2017, 04:27 PM.
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              • R0CKETMAN
                • Aug 2017
                • 74

                • NGAMTNS

                • '15 G23

                #97
                Originally posted by ironj32 View Post
                I think one thing to note is that the base engine on the G is 450hp.
                When did the 450 become the "base engine"?
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                • ironj32
                  Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                  • May 2011
                  • 601

                  • Lake Sarah (Independence), MN

                  • 2018 SAN G23 XR550

                  #98
                  i want to say last year, but im not 100% sure on that.
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                  2015 SAN G23 XR550
                  2014 SAN G23 XR550
                  2013 SAN G23 XS550
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                  • Skidave
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • May 2005
                    • 697

                    • York, PA

                    • 2003 Air 206 Team Sold: 1979 Ski Nautique (Brown!)

                    #99
                    Anyone concerned with these boat prices? Not far from starting with a 2 as the first digit...

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                    • Evening Shade
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 1295

                      • Martinez, GA/Lake Greenwood, SC

                      • 2017 GS20 Previous: 2011 SAN 210, 2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Skidave View Post
                      Anyone concerned with these boat prices? Not far from starting with a 2 as the first digit...

                      Sent from my SM-J320V using Tapatalk
                      Yes they are very concerning to me. MSRP on some boats with options already begins with a 2. It's hard for me to believe that I own the smallest boat Nautique makes and just by adding a few options and a trailer its price started with a 1!

                      I must be crazy or dumb to buy a boat that costs more than my first house! Of course when I say that I also realize that it's an admission that I'm getting old.
                      2007 Malibu Wakesetter 23 LSV, 1995 Cobalt 200

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                      • GMLIII
                        1,000 Post Club Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 2798

                        • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                        • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                        #101
                        "I must be crazy or dumb to buy a boat that costs more than my first house! Of course when I say that I also realize that it's an admission that I'm getting old.

                        So true EveningShade

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                        • swc5150
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 2240

                          • Eau Claire, WI

                          • MasterCraft Prostar

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
                          I must be crazy or dumb to buy a boat that costs more than my first house! Of course when I say that I also realize that it's an admission that I'm getting old.
                          LOL, my parents said the same thing when they bought us our first MC in the early 80's!
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                          • 72Miles
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 161

                            • Charlotte, NC

                            • 2014 G23

                            #103
                            Prices are just getting stupid crazy. There's a reason Moombas are all over the lake.

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                            • NautiqueJeff
                              A d m i n i s t r a t o r
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 16558
                              • Lake Norman

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                              • 2025 SAN G23 PNE 1985 Sea Nautique 1980 Twin-Engine Fish Nautique

                              #104
                              It is true that the prices for these boats are very high, but with 30% overall growth over the last year for Correct Craft's brands (Nautique's numbers are not specifically stated, but have certainly grown above market averages), it is hard to really fault them for keeping prices high. If they are selling more and more boats even with these prices, would it not be a bad business decision to have prices any lower? The factory is already building at capacity. Lowering prices would simply lead to longer backlogs due to even higher sales.
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                              • scottb7
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                                • Aug 2011
                                • 2198

                                • Carson City, Nevada

                                • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                                #105
                                I agree with above...supply and demand determine price, and I don't blame them for pricing that way.

                                ...what bugs me is when people say they don't depreciate...These boats - even when someone is getting 20% off to start with - are depreciating up to $10k / PER YEAR. And I am guessing the depreciation figure will rise as the demand for new boats is still probably higher then what people are willing to pay on the used market...

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