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  • swatguy
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2008
    • 1631

    • Midwest/ Northern IL

    • 2008 SANTE 210

    #46
    Originally posted by Evening Shade View Post
    Btw, I saw a double tantrum in a Malibu promo video 7 or 8 years ago. It was thrown on a double up.

    While I don't like MC styling these days, I must admit that I think it's pretty cool that they still offer a teak platform.

    I was wrong, it was a toe side double backroll in the Malibu video. Still very cool.

    Shapiro was doing doubles ofF wakes behind Bu's even before then.


    The bow bow looks like the old Star ate a Waketractor and didn't completely swallow it. . Horrendous . The MC boats today are just way too busy for me . I think the 3rd gen ( 03-11) Xstar is probably the sexiest wakeboat every built when it's in the water . I like the new lines of their XT series, but they def went a step back in detail and bling on that line. This windshield on the new 18 Star doesn't flow at all. I don't mind their hipped look , but as mentioned by a few above I am still a 230/210 classic styling guy . My 2nd favorite boat of all time is the 03 SANTE 210. Thing still is sexy as **** .

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    • Kmayotte
      Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
      • Apr 2010
      • 819

      • Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

      • 2016 G23, 1999 SN Python Past: 2004 SANTE, 1993 SN

      #47
      I don't understand how one cannot think the G23 has great lines and overall looks. Since they cleaned up the gel pattern and busy graphics for the 16's it's been the most BA looking boat on the market without being too over the top futuristic or busy gel lines.
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      • ScooterMcgavin
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1478

        • Florida

        • 2014 SAN 210 TE

        #48
        Originally posted by Kmayotte View Post
        I don't understand how one cannot think the G23 has great lines and overall looks. Since they cleaned up the gel pattern and busy graphics for the 16's it's been the most BA looking boat on the market without being too over the top futuristic or busy gel lines.
        I'm with you all the way. I guess it boiles down to each his own.
        2009 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
        2006 Super Air Nautique 210 TE
        1989 Sport Nautique

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        • swc5150
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • May 2008
          • 2240

          • Eau Claire, WI

          • MasterCraft Prostar

          #49
          Subjective for sure! I never understood the departure from the classic 210/230 look, to the Fisher Price Sea Explorer look of the G's? I'm in the minority here, but the G's look horrid to me.
          '08 196LE (previous)
          '07 196LE (previous)
          2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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          • bandit628
            • Sep 2016
            • 318

            • Southern Illinois

            • Current-2012 SANTE 210 Past Boats 2000 Mastercraft

            #50
            Not to bash the xstar. The wake looks massive. But the side by side comparison of it and the G23, the hulls look pretty similar to me.

            Now it sounds like the xstar has some really neat features like fast filing ballast and possible a shifting ballast?

            But it just irks me that all the MC diehards bash the G series, when it is pretty obvious that the new star used the G as a stepping stone. You know MCs research team dissected a few Gs along with every other model. Which I'm sure Nautique did as well. Chevy ford thing I guess.
            Last edited by bandit628; 09-06-2017, 02:06 PM.

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            • swc5150
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • May 2008
              • 2240

              • Eau Claire, WI

              • MasterCraft Prostar

              #51
              bandit628 No doubt! G performance shocked MC I think. My Prostar has a LOT of lifted ideas from the 200 as well.
              '08 196LE (previous)
              '07 196LE (previous)
              2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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              • scottb7
                1,000 Post Club Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2198

                • Carson City, Nevada

                • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                #52
                Everyone uses everyone as a stepping stone...I would expect MC to try to meet and then beat the competition.

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                • bandit628
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 318

                  • Southern Illinois

                  • Current-2012 SANTE 210 Past Boats 2000 Mastercraft

                  #53
                  Originally posted by scottb7
                  Everyone uses everyone as a stepping stone...I would expect MC to try to meet and then beat the competition.

                  I agree. That's why captalism works. But why bash the competition?

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                  • dhanni848
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 252

                    • Nashville, TN

                    • 13 Super air 230 Team Edition 03 Super Air 210 Team Edition - Sold 88 Mastercraft TriStar 220 - Sold

                    #54
                    Weird to me how there are not many comments that like the looks of both boats. I love the G and the new xstar, very different looking boats and I commend that. I do not care for the center curve of the window on the xstar. The G is a tank though and I can see why some don't like that, and how some do not like the hard lines of the Mastercraft line up. I like both. I will never be able to afford either though so..........

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                    • swc5150
                      1,000 Post Club Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 2240

                      • Eau Claire, WI

                      • MasterCraft Prostar

                      #55
                      Originally posted by bandit628 View Post


                      I agree. That's why captalism works. But why bash the competition?
                      I don't that anyone here is bashing the competition, just pointing out that they like or dislike the aesthetics. Maybe I'm seeing it differently, but bashing would be saying a boat is built like garbage or something. Looks are subjective, but MC's and CC's are both top-notch built boats. I'd be proud to own either one.
                      '08 196LE (previous)
                      '07 196LE (previous)
                      2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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                      • bandit628
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 318

                        • Southern Illinois

                        • Current-2012 SANTE 210 Past Boats 2000 Mastercraft

                        #56
                        Originally posted by swc5150

                        I don't that anyone here is bashing the competition, just pointing out that they like or dislike the aesthetics. Maybe I'm seeing it differently, but bashing would be saying a boat is built like garbage or something. Looks are subjective, but MC's and CC's are both top-notch built boats. I'd be proud to own either one.

                        Should have clarified. I guess that statement was for another forum haha.

                        But yes both are top grade boats.

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                        • jharris
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 243

                          • Michigan

                          • 2022 G23

                          #57
                          Originally posted by swc5150 View Post

                          I don't that anyone here is bashing the competition, just pointing out that they like or dislike the aesthetics. Maybe I'm seeing it differently, but bashing would be saying a boat is built like garbage or something. Looks are subjective, but MC's and CC's are both top-notch built boats. I'd be proud to own either one.

                          I often relate this comparison to Audi vs BMW. Both are great cars with a great heritage. However, one brand appeals to one person and one brand appeals to another. I personally can't stand the interior dash/layout that MC uses. However, I have MC friends that have the same impression of my Nautique. Exactly the reason competition exists and since both a great boats, both owner groups have great passion for their product.

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                          • wakeany1
                            • May 2010
                            • 64

                            • Canada

                            • 2017 G21 Team H6 2014 Super Air 210 Team 1996 Ski Nauitique 2003 Super

                            #58
                            Obviously we all watched the release video and yeah they hype it up pretty well, my personal thoughts are if you threw 8 pro riders in any boat and loaded it with 4000 plus pounds of weight any boat is going to throw a massive wake. I feel that is the difference where our boats and wakes are built around the hull and use the natural design to create a perfect wake not the race to 4000 pounds. I also have noticed on all MC boats if you give that tower a shake the whole boat flexes down the rails and the stern. I am no builder but as a consumer should my 150k plus boat do that?? I have been a rider and owner for over 25 years and am still not impressed with what MC does to brainwash people into buying their boats.

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                            • Wayward
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 424

                              • Northeast

                              • 2022 XStar

                              #59
                              Originally posted by wakeany1 View Post
                              Obviously we all watched the release video and yeah they hype it up pretty well, my personal thoughts are if you threw 8 pro riders in any boat and loaded it with 4000 plus pounds of weight any boat is going to throw a massive wake. I feel that is the difference where our boats and wakes are built around the hull and use the natural design to create a perfect wake not the race to 4000 pounds. I also have noticed on all MC boats if you give that tower a shake the whole boat flexes down the rails and the stern. I am no builder but as a consumer should my 150k plus boat do that?? I have been a rider and owner for over 25 years and am still not impressed with what MC does to brainwash people into buying their boats.
                              haha. Sounds like you got a little case of the brain washies yourself....

                              The exact same thing could have been said about the G23 at the time of its release. Nautique almost doubled the factory ballast of anything out there at the time. Also, I do know the MC ZFT3 did shake when it was introduced like 10 years ago, before they added the braces to it shortly after. Since then, I haven't seen any of their towers flex any more than any of their competition. The ZFT4 Has proved to be rock solid for like 7 years now, and flexed less in my last 2 MCs than the towers in my 2 G23s when running along on a choppy lake (for the record, none of them flex bad at all).

                              Either way, I do agree that Nautique did a fantastic job building a top notch hull, and then a boat around it. No denying how ridiculously good the G series boats are....... they jumped ahead for a few years, but there are a whole lot of other boats that have caught up, and there isn't any reason MC isn't capable of surpassing it. They build excellent boats. Saying someone has to be brainwashed to buy one, just reflects a huge amount of biased, and a likelihood of brain washing on yourself..... in my humble opinion.

                              I wish I could be that one sided. It would be nice to not have to watch the other brands, and the fantastic things they are doing.

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                              • swc5150
                                1,000 Post Club Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 2240

                                • Eau Claire, WI

                                • MasterCraft Prostar

                                #60
                                I guess MC brainwashed me by producing a better wake than the 200, not only for me, but my wife's 24mph slalom speed.
                                '08 196LE (previous)
                                '07 196LE (previous)
                                2 - '06 196SE's (previous)

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