2016 G23 with 275 vs. 425 hours?

[Tallredrider]

I currently have a 2016 G23 that I have loved quite a bit. I share it with a buddy and we are racking up the hours. We are debating between an upgrade for 2018 or waiting another year until 2019. The 2016 G23 has a 5 year warranty OR 500 hours. We are clearly heading for the hour mark before we get to the 5 year mark, as we currently have 265 hours and will put up some more before the season is over. So our choices are to sell this spring and get new, or wait another year and it will probably have around 425 hours at that time. BTW, the warranty for 2018 goes up to 1000 hours.

I have been a big proponent of the fact that hours are not often an indicator that a boat is headed for problems, but understand the reality that despite my preaching, many people perceive high hours as a very bad thing. The boat has been well maintained and is in good condition. As expected, the SeaDek and swimstep have a few scuffs, but there are no major gelcoat issues, and everything operates perfectly.

If we wait a year, then the boat will have less warranty on it, and I wonder if that will bite more than it would to just sell it this spring.

My question for the Planet Nautique community is regarding the beating I will take with a 3 year old boat with over 400 hours vs the 2 year old boat with 275. If I were a buyer, I think having 225 hours worth of warranty compared to 75 would mean a fair amount. An average boater will likely get the full 5 years if I sell now, but only 3+ to 4 if I wait. I am sure some of you have a pulse on the market and am curious what you think. So far, the new boats have nothing that I 'need'. This boat works awesome and I do not think the new items will enhance my experience very much, other than the thrill of designing and having a new boat.

Also, there is the possibility that next year is even better for us and we end up with 450 or more hours, but I suspect it will be less.

[a0128]

. . . If I were a buyer, I think having 225 hours worth of warranty compared to 75 would mean a fair amount . . .

Totally agree.

Under normal circumstances I'd overlook slightly higher hours as long as there is a solid record of maintenance.

However . . given the complexity of these boats (i.e. LINC, ballast, NSS, radio, etc) and the amount of issues owners have reported on this site with their G series boats I would think 225 hours of warranty would make your boat more desirable to a potential buyer. The remaining 225 hours for some owners could be several years of ownership and they would be covered through 2021 (5 years from 2016). At that point they would probably be looking to upgrade anyway.

[swc5150]

Agreed, 225 hours of warranty is a big deal I think. Also, no matter what people say, hours matter a great deal to buyers. Even a perfectly maintained engine has a service life of 2,500-3,000 hours give or take. Moving parts inevitably wear out. You guys use your boat enough to make the jump, in my opinion anyway.

[Tallredrider]

Agreed, 225 hours of warranty is a big deal I think. Also, no matter what people say, hours matter a great deal to buyers. Even a perfectly maintained engine has a service life of 2,500-3,000 hours give or take. Moving parts inevitably wear out. You guys use your boat enough to make the jump, in my opinion anyway.

Most boats end up in the weeds in the backyard with 1000 hours or less on the motor with what started as a variety of small things gone wrong, then through sitting too long, several other things went bad, then the interior rotted and the trailer got rusty bearings and so on.

Thanks for your thoughts, gents. I was afraid you would talk me into a new boat...just have to clear it through the office of budgetary support.

[wakemaker]

put it out there and see if it moves for what u want and if not no big deal , u have all the time in the world better time to sell is in fall boat show time and in march , thats when i think mine is going to sell hope to get the g23 for the new year lol

[R0CKETMAN]

Hang onto it until next re-design I'm thinking.

[Tallredrider]

put it out there and see if it moves for what u want and if not no big deal , u have all the time in the world better time to sell is in fall boat show time and in march , thats when i think mine is going to sell hope to get the g23 for the new year lol

The only big deal would be if I don't get what I think I want out of it now, then I may be stuck losing a lot more next year. And I would feel I was in a must sell situation in a year.

[wakemaker]

why are u ever in a must sell ? thats why u need to put it out there now , still think boat show season will be the best time to get the most $ . g23 are at 110000 right now
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[swatguy]

I completely understand your situation here. Here's my .02 being a guy that's worked at a dealer and as a former regional sales rep for Centurion.

Youre re on the right track here to maximize the money on your current boat. The key point here is you want to upgrade. What you're trying to figure out is when is best if I am understanding correctly.

My opinion .........you upgrade now and go for the 18. Financially it's the best situation. Your current boat is sitting at 265hrs. It's still a 16 so arguably "like new" . The 16-17 designs are just about the same. The screens were really the main difference and some creature comforts , but on a major list of things relatively minor. It's easy to sway people now that you have half of the warranty left , they could save a signinifcant chunk of cash going with yours, still having lots warranty left bs going new and still getting a "current" model and its hours are low. So again no real difference there per say

let's say you wait til 2019. Nautique does tweak the hull, or design. Now your boat is longer and apples to apples comparison, put in the fact a buyer would be contemplating new bs a now basically "out of warranty" boat vs a new design with a warranty. Now your comparing a 465hr boat to new. To most buyers. That is a nasty number when looking new vs used. Now Lets say just for comparison it was a 2014 year with 465 hrs. No one will even think for a second those hours are high, but on a 2016 just about every buyer will think twice because the price they paying is relatively close to newer models with way less hours. You're gonna take a bigger hit to move that boat than you ever would now , plus you creep up to the are of where boats take the biggest hit. Historically years 2.5-4 is where boats really dive in price and become really tough to move on the market when you're talking flagship boats. They are still so high in price most "used boat " buyers can't touch them , and new boat buyers don't want them because on a model year scale they're "old" .


Once you get passed the 5-6 yr mark your price and hours level out again .....500 hrs is nothing , people won't even blink twice at that point. Even 6-700 can be sold when the boat shows it's been maintained.


So imo opinion you basically sell now , get the new rig and get the most out of your current boat. If you wait and it does hit that 460hr mark and Nautique does a redesign you're screwed on the old boat and will take a huge a hit moving to a new one. I understand it's a gamble either way but let's say 2019 does have a redesign and you now want it after pulling the trigger on the 18. I still don't think you lose as much off that deal as your would keeping your 16 til the 19's come out.