2018 230 vs 2017 X23

[thejean]

the other thing to consider, if you run bigger bags you can't adjust the timers, I would go for a swim with the kids then have to get out and hit the buttons again. With other companies they do have adjustable timers so if you add more weight you can change the timers.

I wonder if that is still true on the 2018 models?

[wakemaker]

go with lead it keeps the space free and u can put in the next boat make u a good deal
https://www.onlyinboards.com/Nautiqu...xas-66966.aspx

[Shockthis]

thejean, I see they have the ugly green 2016 G23 Ninja turtle boat, back at wizard, you should low ball them on it.

[surfnjosh]

the other thing to consider, if you run bigger bags you can't adjust the timers, I would go for a swim with the kids then have to get out and hit the buttons again. With other companies they do have adjustable timers so if you add more weight you can change the timers.

I agree Nautique should have adjustable timers, but this really shouldn't be a concern big enough to have any deciding factor on what boat to buy.

Why does nobody consider upgrading the ballast pumps after purchase ?? Its not very hard....

Jean, Nautiques are the best, period.

I watched that new xstar video and I just started laughing at the very end, when Parks Bonifay says "Were back baby" like finally mastercraft admitted they weren't on top................

Mastercrafts are like Mercedez....****ty and expensive

[thejean]

go with lead it keeps the space free and u can put in the next boat make u a good deal
https://www.onlyinboards.com/Nautiqu...xas-66966.aspx

Super nice looking boat! But I would rather buy a little closer to home.

[thejean]

thejean, I see they have the ugly green 2016 G23 Ninja turtle boat, back at wizard, you should low ball them on it.

I talked to them about that one today just to see and it's still well above our budget.

Wife is a hard no on a G boat anyway. Again, the cost conscious side of her. I've brought up the G23 a couple of times now and the answer is always "We are not getting a G23, period.!" Women are funny creatures.

[thejean]

I watched that new xstar video and I just started laughing at the very end, when Parks Bonifay says "Were back baby" like finally mastercraft admitted they weren't on top................

Mastercrafts are like Mercedez....****ty and expensive

I will admit that it is one sexy boat though, regardless. 4100 lbs stock is respectable.

The centurion still trumps that though. I think it's like 5000 or something ridiculous.

[Shockthis]

Funny I was happy with my 210 until the wife said hey we are having a baby we need a bigger boat. We wanted the g23 ( price was just to high) but we ended up getting one of these bad boys instead.

[thejean]

Funny I was happy with my 210 until the wife said hey we are having a baby we need a bigger boat. We wanted the g23 ( price was just to high) but we ended up getting one of these bad boys instead.

Didn't test drive it but did sit in it. Looks cool and seems to tick all the boxes and probably surfs like a champ. We still want the classic elegance of the SAN and the MC boats though.

[R0CKETMAN]

We still want the classic elegance of the SAN and the MC boats though.

MC lost anything remotely "classic" with the "broken boat" look....the new windshield isn't too bad.

[72Miles]

Your wife likes the 230 better, I would buy the boat before she decides she wants to remodel the kitchen instead.

Yeah I stopped reading there. If momma ain't happy.......

[Shockthis]

Didn't test drive it but did sit in it. Looks cool and seems to tick all the boxes and probably surfs like a champ. We still want the classic elegance of the SAN and the MC boats though.

You will love the 230, we where pretty close going that way, I agree that the 230 is a great looking boat and has classic elegance, not sure about classic elegance of a G23(it is bad *** though)

[Shockthis]

It actually seems like 3 forums, Mastercraft, Malibu and Here. Very good late night read. You have a lot on your mind man, maybe smoke a big fatty and flip a coin at this point. (Jokes)
It seems like it is now between the Lsv and the 230 because they are the same price? Good luck in your decision.
The next step is the options, that is where I had troubles.

Only two forums. But yes, point taken and I agree. My decision has been made. Sticking with the 230. My gut was telling me all along it's the best value in a new 2018 and has the latest and greatest and still is a very respectable hull. There's a good reason Nautique keeps it around methinks and they know more about boats than I do!

[Kruchy]

I am high jacking only because I also am looking at a 230. Right now in a tige r21 but would like to get back to the 23 foot interior room. Had a z3 bumped my head bought a pontoon now this year back in a tige r21. The 230 sounds like a nice boat with awesome options but needs added weight or is it as good as a z3 stock surf ballast to surf ballast? What about the fi23 from centurion? About 35 to upgrade for me to a 230 and 45 to upgrade to a z3. Haven't priced out a fi23 yet. Any thoughts appreciated.

[thejean]

It actually seems like 3 forums, Mastercraft, Malibu and Here. Very good late night read. You have a lot on your mind man, maybe smoke a big fatty and flip a coin at this point. (Jokes)
It seems like it is now between the Lsv and the 230 because they are the same price? Good luck in your decision.
The next step is the options, that is where I had troubles.

I had actually forgotten I had posted on the Malibu forum (I used to have one). When I thought the LSV was going to in the price range of a MC, I wasn't going to consider it further. And truthfully, I am not leaning that way at all. I hear the new 18's don't have bad bow rise anymore so maybe I thought I should at least do some more homework on it. Regardless, I can't see me in another Malibu.

But now I found out that I can't order the 230 in the colour scheme I want, so I am seriously considering pulling out and going MC. I'm not brand loyal here, I'm just looking for the best boat for the best price. I bought the wrong boat once because I didn't do my homework and I'm not making that mistake again. That time I got off lucky and got most of my money back. With a new boat, there is zero chance I will get off that lucky if I change my mind afterwards. So is it a bad thing that I posted on two forums to get the opinions from owners who own both boats? I think it's due diligence.

As for options, no problems there. We know exactly what we want in that department. That's also why I am having such a hard time getting the MC dealer to be competitive with the 230. Sure, I can get a bare bones MC XT23 for similar money but I know I am not willing to do that.

So pay more and get the MC or 'live' with a 230 in not my preferred colour scheme. It's a tough call. The whole point of ordering a **** boat is to make sure you get exactly what you want... ugh.

Can someone pass me a joint please?