230 or G21?

[Infinity]

Personally I think you can get a better wave from a 230 and its a very nice boat...you wont regret the extra room and 23ft+ boats are the normal now and what majority of people look for used unless they have some sort of restriction...which you may from the sound of it. That is why boats are getting bigger and bigger, they are responding to what the market is asking for. This is what happens when you ask a forum tho, 1000 different opinions cause everyone wants/likes something slightly different.
Regarding that "dip" in the G21 wave....I think a lot of that has to do with not running enough bow weight. Have heard a couple people complain about that on a few brands and most of them were correctable by adding bow weight (not all brands like bow weight...MC being one of them). I actually experienced that "dip" first hand on an RI237 where I kept pearling my board over and over when coming down wave after airing board, and adding 400lbs of lead weight to bow fixed it. Personally, I don't think any boat has an awesome surf wave stock....except maybe an RI257 and even then, most are adding 1000lbs of lead weight. However, to a beginner/intermediate surfer, extra weight is not needed tho the learning curve is a little shorter when you have a wave with tons of size/push.

[thejean]

Also a side note not sure if you took your length measurement accounting for the platform but they are all easily removed. So would gain some there if you wanted to go 23.

Yeah took that into consideration. Good reminder though!

[thejean]

I just traded in my 230 for a G23, honestly I never once thought about a G21 nor would I ever in the future just from the fact you spend a bit more money and you got the flagship I would try and get in to one of them for sure.
I would look at 2016s you'll get the same hull/wake as an 18 and a better tower than the 17s. ( I think that all green one is badass btw) the 17s had the lower tower that was a stupid idea.

I prefer buying used myself, let someone else take the biggest hit on the depreciation.

We did price up that one but came out way above the budget. Not to mention that my wife seems to have an aversion to G23's (women are weird). I think she sees it as the boat to buy if you have something to prove or are overcompensating. I've broached this subject a number of times on even used G23's and she's always a hard no. But she does seem willing to entertain a G21 for some bloody reason. Who knows. Women, ugh.

[thejean]

I kind of jumped around with the same choice... In the end I picked up a used 2016 G23... I just didn't want to regret my decision and end up trading boats yet again in a couple years because I wanted the nicer boat. Buy what you want the first time instead of taking the hit on a trade in a couple years from now. Also I just find the features and surf worth the extra $$$ on the G23. It is a dangerous game once you start stretching the budget further and further but I am still happy with my choice. But yes if you aren't 100% stuck on colors I would really look at the 2016+ G23's. you get the JL audio, the new hull, the helm control knob but can greatly reduce your purchase price compared to new. I know I purchased my fully loaded 2016 G23 used for about the same price as you are looking at a new G21.

There are no used 2016 G23's available (there are a few 2014 and 2015's though). And I can't be sure one that we like will come up over winter. At least if I order a 2018 G21 I can make sure we get exactly what we want. My wife also wants the 2017+ dash so in a G23 I need to go to 2017 model year and am looking at $160+. Too much moola.

[thejean]

Personally I think you can get a better wave from a 230 and its a very nice boat...you wont regret the extra room and 23ft+ boats are the normal now and what majority of people look for used unless they have some sort of restriction...which you may from the sound of it. That is why boats are getting bigger and bigger, they are responding to what the market is asking for. This is what happens when you ask a forum tho, 1000 different opinions cause everyone wants/likes something slightly different.
Regarding that "dip" in the G21 wave....I think a lot of that has to do with not running enough bow weight. Have heard a couple people complain about that on a few brands and most of them were correctable by adding bow weight (not all brands like bow weight...MC being one of them). I actually experienced that "dip" first hand on an RI237 where I kept pearling my board over and over when coming down wave after airing board, and adding 400lbs of lead weight to bow fixed it. Personally, I don't think any boat has an awesome surf wave stock....except maybe an RI257 and even then, most are adding 1000lbs of lead weight. However, to a beginner/intermediate surfer, extra weight is not needed tho the learning curve is a little shorter when you have a wash with tons of size/push.

Thanks for the post. Very helpful. I do wish they could do the 230 in the colour scheme I want as I do feel like it will surf better possibly. I just hate that I am ordering a new boat and can't even get what I want. At least with the G21 it's not a huge stretch of my budget and can get exactly what I want. Plus it's a G, even if it is the little one...

[Wake.BC]

There’s a reason wizard stocks a ton of g23’s and literally no g21’s... just saying. Personally coming from the 23lsv I wouldn’t want to go smaller.
I would be looking at the g23, 230 and both the tige rzx’s


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[toomuchuv]

You can't surf the colour. Should be a no brainer. Hard to beat the 230 surf wave..... And way in budget

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[thejean]

You guys are killing me. Wife is a hard no on the G23. I'm going to go test one tomorrow. Will see... if it's subpar then I'll just have to go with the 230. Poor me... lol.

[Cpan13]

Make your own decision. 90% of the guys screaming G23 probably have never been in one let alone stroked a check for one. Do what makes sense for you and your family. You can't go wrong with a 230 or a G21.

[Kenv]

How tall are you and do you hit your head on the speakers coming into the step down from the transom walk through?

Good question.....I'm only 5'6" and my kids are short. Daughter's bfriend and brother are tall though. No issues as I only have two 8" Wetsounds instead of 4. 4 might have caused more of a duck down issue.....but with two it's perfect. No issues at all. In the future...if I get a G23 I might run 4 due to the slightly higher tower...

[Kenv]

There is no shortage of G's on my lake. My uncle has a 2014 G21, and I currently have a G23 yes. I would honestly try and push my budget if I was you into a G23 even a 2016 they have some nice features that the G21 can't have, in floor cooler etc, but I do see that your terribly hung up on colors so that might not be an option. That being said if you have a usual crew of 3-6 ppl you will probably never desire to add extra weight into a G21 besides the normal 200# on the port side to counter prop rotation, it will surf pretty decent with stock ballast for 90% of people. Also when you say the G21 is significantly cheaper how are you optioning it? Typically I see 12-15k difference which to me on a 2018 is peanuts. Also if you are only worried about height of the door I would say the G21 and G23 are the same height on the trailer as long as the trailer is the same brand. A 9' door might fit if you let the air out of the tires on the trailer. My G23 sits at 8'9" on the trailer, 10' door minimum for my liking.

Dead on on all comments Nohlan. That would be my words exactly. I'm going to a G23 next...probably two more years...But I LOVE my G21. I am just getting bigger crews as my kids are in high school and word spreads about who has the G....LOL. Not really...but my kids keep inviting more friends each weekend...but it is great fun and Awesome memories. If I was making the choice right now...money on the desk....I would go G21 over the 230 for sure.

[Kenv]

"Weight change from 2015 would be the major hull update would be my guess in 2016."....Nope....there has never been a hull change on the G21 since it's inception. It might have been the change in stereo equipment?? Something else??...but it's wasn't any type of hull change.

[Kenv]

Also...one other thing to consider on all points above. I went with the G21 due to the fact I have a lakehouse, with tons of shade...in Texas. That makes a BIG difference. We don't stay on the water all day....as we have a home base. If I didn't have the house...i'd go G25....seriously. Also....about.....your wife is so stuck on the G23 being the "flagship"....but technically the G25 SHOULD be Flagship in the lineup....just not the most popular......Yeah...she knows...the G23 is money...both in your cocktail conversation and in the wallet....LOL. Again...I love love love my G21...but will move up to a G23 in a couple of summers. I strictly do a five year plan and don't care about resale or the trade in price. I just do it. 2000, 2005, 2010, 2015...2020 work for me. Bugs me that people are already selling their boat before they even use it. Just GET the **** color that your wife or kids want and you're gold.....LOL. Don't worry about trading in an Orange boat in 5 years...or Yellow...JUST GET IT!!!

[surfnjosh]

Also...one other thing to consider on all points above. I went with the G21 due to the fact I have a lakehouse, with tons of shade...in Texas. That makes a BIG difference. We don't stay on the water all day....as we have a home base. If I didn't have the house...i'd go G25....seriously. Also....about.....your wife is so stuck on the G23 being the "flagship"....but technically the G25 SHOULD be Flagship in the lineup....just not the most popular......Yeah...she knows...the G23 is money...both in your cocktail conversation and in the wallet....LOL. Again...I love love love my G21...but will move up to a G23 in a couple of summers. I strictly do a five year plan and don't care about resale or the trade in price. I just do it. 2000, 2005, 2010, 2015...2020 work for me. Bugs me that people are already selling their boat before they even use it. Just GET the **** color that your wife or kids want and you're gold.....LOL. Don't worry about trading in an Orange boat in 5 years...or Yellow...JUST GET IT!!!

I disagree on the flagship comment. The g23 is the flagship because it puts out the best wakes. You dontvsee g25s pulling the big events it's the g23 for a reason. The g25vis more like the cruise ship lol

[Kenv]

Has anyone run a G21 with less weight to see if the surf wave mellows out a bit? I'm thinking some bow lead could lengthen and widen it but no proof of that. Or just run less ballast.

Yes...I have tried 1/2 belly....1/2 Starboard and full port. Seems to be the best combo for us with about 4 passengers. It is a bit of a challenge to make the wave longer on a G21. Short and steep seems to be it's forte. Remember....the ballast for all three G's is 2850. You fill both back on the 21 and it digs....making short and close. But driving visibility with any weight ballast is still VERY good compared to the competition.