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  • GMLIII
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • May 2013
    • 2797

    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

    #1

    Steel Shot Ballast -G23

    I was thinking of adding some additional 50lb steel shot ballast bags to my G23 in which I’’m currently using 500lbs . I have no interesting in supplimenting with water ballast bags because they are a pain and take up too much room . I was just getting a general consensus on what other folks were running in their G23 for shot ballast bags.
    Last edited by GMLIII; 10-19-2017, 07:22 PM.
  • Nautiquehunter
    1,000 Post Club Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2080

    • Flowery Branch GA Lake Lanier

    • 2008 210 SANTE 67 Correct Craft Mustang

    #2
    The two things I like about water 1- they can be drained when not in use . Why drag all that extra weight if you don't have too. 2 They are ballast neutral so they will not add weight if the boat is sinking.

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    • BigEasy
      • Jun 2017
      • 137

      • Bullard, Texas

      • 2018 G23

      #3
      I run 550# in mine


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      • Bevostein
        Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
        • Jun 2008
        • 523

        • Frisco, TX

        • 2021 G23 2019 G23 (Sold) 2013 G25 550XR (Sold) 2009 216V (Sold)

        #4
        700# but a G25

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        • charlesml3
          1,000 Post Club Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2454

          • Lake Gaston, NC

          • 2022 G23

          #5
          Originally posted by Nautiquehunter View Post
          The two things I like about water 1- they can be drained when not in use . Why drag all that extra weight if you don't have too. 2 They are ballast neutral so they will not add weight if the boat is sinking.
          The two things I hate about water:

          - They take up WAY more room than shot bags.
          - I have to get a stupid pump out to fill/drain them.

          And if your boat is sinking, ballast bags (shot or water) are not your biggest problem.

          There is no right answer here. Both types of ballast have their advantages and disadvantages. There's actually one more advantage for shot bags:

          - Leverage. You can shove a 50-pound shot bag way up in the very front of the bow. In that location, it has more leverage than a water bag which has to be further back.

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          • GMLIII
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • May 2013
            • 2797

            • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

            • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

            #6
            Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post

            The two things I hate about water:

            - They take up WAY more room than shot bags.
            - I have to get a stupid pump out to fill/drain them.

            And if your boat is sinking, ballast bags (shot or water) are not your biggest problem.

            There is no right answer here. Both types of ballast have their advantages and disadvantages. There's actually one more advantage for shot bags:

            - Leverage. You can shove a 50-pound shot bag way up in the very front of the bow. In that location, it has more leverage than a water bag which has to be further back.
            How many shot bags are you running Charles?

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            • charlesml3
              1,000 Post Club Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 2454

              • Lake Gaston, NC

              • 2022 G23

              #7
              Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

              How many shot bags are you running Charles?
              10, but it's in a 230, not a G23. I may add a few more in the spring. Over the summer, I've noticed that I really do like the surf wake with 6-7 people on the boat more than when we just have 2-3. I don't want to go really crazy here. The boat has to remain "user friendly."

              -Charles

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              • jingram
                • Sep 2015
                • 85

                • oregon

                • 2016 G 23

                #8
                Im using #250 of leadwake bags under observers seat.

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                • SoCal G-Man
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 329

                  • Westlake Village

                  • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GMLIII View Post
                  I was thinking of adding some additional 50lb steel shot ballast bags to my G23 in which I’’m currently using 500lbs . I have no interesting in supplimenting with water ballast bags because they are a pain and take up too much room . I was just getting a general consensus on what other folks were running in their G23 for shot ballast bags.
                  I am curious what you decided to do??? Thanks!
                  2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                  • GMLIII
                    1,000 Post Club Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2797

                    • Smith Mountain Lake, VA (Craddock Creek area)

                    • 2017 G23 Coastal Edition H6 | 2001 Sport Nautique | 1981 Ski Nautique

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SoCal G-Man View Post

                    I am curious what you decided to do??? Thanks!
                    Good timing now that I'm into my second season with my boat and extra steel shot bags. We all get "worn assout" with surf set up advice, but now since I have gotten to be a better surfer and had some quality time behind my G23, here is my ideal set up. All ballast 100%, NCRS 4, NSS 1, 11.7 mph, 200 lbs of steel shot in bow nose, 250 lbs port side observer seat, 150 lbs steel shot bags behind drivers seat, 150 lbs of steel shot behind observer seat. "NO" steel shot in stern lockers.

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                    • SoCal G-Man
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 329

                      • Westlake Village

                      • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GMLIII View Post

                      Good timing now that I'm into my second season with my boat and extra steel shot bags. We all get "worn assout" with surf set up advice, but now since I have gotten to be a better surfer and had some quality time behind my G23, here is my ideal set up. All ballast 100%, NCRS 4, NSS 1, 11.7 mph, 200 lbs of steel shot in bow nose, 250 lbs port side observer seat, 150 lbs steel shot bags behind drivers seat, 150 lbs of steel shot behind observer seat. "NO" steel shot in stern lockers.
                      Thank you for the update!
                      2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                      • Sailfun
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 131

                        • Lake Norman NC

                        • 2018 Nautique G23 2022 Robalo 226

                        #12
                        I would be more concerned with the effects on trailering the boat. These are already very heavy boats and I see them towed often by vehicles that have no business pulling 7500Lbs let alone a higher amount with lead. Trailer capacity may also be a issue.

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                        • markj
                          1,000 Post Club Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1194

                          • NorCal

                          • Current: 2015 230 Sold: 2005 SAN 210 1991 Barefoot

                          #13
                          Pretty sure Jeff runs 1000 lbs at all times.

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                          • SoCal G-Man
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 329

                            • Westlake Village

                            • 2019 Super Air Nautique G23

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sailfun View Post
                            I would be more concerned with the effects on trailering the boat. These are already very heavy boats and I see them towed often by vehicles that have no business pulling 7500Lbs let alone a higher amount with lead. Trailer capacity may also be a issue.
                            Excellent points! My tow vehicles are rated for the weight. Trailer capacity is my primary concern.
                            2019 SAN G23 | 2016 SAN G23 | 2013 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2008 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2003 Wakesetter 23 LSV | 2000 Wakesetter VLX | 1998 Sanger V210 | 1994 Magic Sceptor 28 | 1985 Cole TR2 | Too many PWC to count!

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                            • thejean
                              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 364

                              • Calgary, AB


                              #15
                              I have 500 lbs. I also don’t take them out but I have a triple axle boatmate trailer and an F350...

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