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  • whitecaps
    • May 2015
    • 125

    • Eads, Tennessee

    • 2017 GS22 1998 Ski Nautique 196

    #31
    Originally posted by charlesml3 View Post
    What draws you to the GS? If you don't have someone who slalom skis, then going that direction is probably a bad idea.

    -Charles
    Love the GS. Charles you sure make alot of (non complimentary)comments on the GS. Have you surfed one? We love ours and are completely happy with surf experience. Not to mention all the the other positives-- handeling, trailering, interior layout, ski ability, size. I think he is making a wise decision to give the GS a hard look for sure.

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    • charlesml3
      1,000 Post Club Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2453

      • Lake Gaston, NC

      • 2022 G23

      #32
      Originally posted by whitecaps View Post

      Love the GS. Charles you sure make alot of (non complimentary)comments on the GS. Have you surfed one? We love ours and are completely happy with surf experience. Not to mention all the the other positives-- handeling, trailering, interior layout, ski ability, size. I think he is making a wise decision to give the GS a hard look for sure.
      The GS is a crossover boat. It's meant to Wakeboard, Surf and Slalom ski. If the buyer is NOT going to slalom ski, then it's not a good choice. There are other boats that will do a better job if the use-case is Wakeboard and/or Wakesurf. If someone was looking at a G23 and said they still liked to slalom, I wouldn't be "complimenting" the G in that regard either.

      This is the difference between a recommendation and an endorsement:

      A recommendation takes into account the intended use, location, budget, crew size, tow vehicle (if applicable), etc and comes to a reasonable direction taking all of that into consideration.

      An endorsement is "You should buy what I bought because I like it."

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      • scottb7
        1,000 Post Club Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2198

        • Carson City, Nevada

        • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

        #33
        hmmm. Charles making a lot of "non complimentary" comments...go figure...now he is going to "school" us on the definition of the term recommendation and endorsement. Thanks Charles.

        An endorsement is a public show of support. At least per the dictionary. So since this forum is public, a recommendation and an endorsement are basically the same thing. IMHO.

        "If the buyer is NOT going to slalom ski, then it's not a good choice." Bold statement. There are inherent problems with the g series, and the 230 as compared to the GS. Now be reminded I own a g21, have owned a 210, and a buddy had a 230. The g boats are not good at wakeboarding at low speeds, which may be important with kids, and beginner adults. The 230 and g series have a pretty finicky wake and easily get washy wakeboarding, wakeskating, unless moderately to heavily weighted. 210 is a pretty good all around boat, but modest in size but still a great contender for someone a bit more serious about wakeboarding and when weighted in the front and not in the back makes a pretty decent ski wake. Not too much bad to say about it. So in summary the gs series may make a good choice depending not just on the sport of choice but the intensity of the sport of choice.
        Last edited by scottb7; 12-22-2017, 03:40 PM.

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        • blueroom
          Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
          • Mar 2017
          • 615

          • Northwest

          • G23

          #34
          Not sure I agree with the "inherent problems" with the G series. Also disagree on the poor slow speed wakeboard comment, at least on the G23. What would you consider slow speed? We take the wake down to intermediate level with a 60/40 bias to the port side and run at 19 mph to work on new tricks, etc. A great experience at that speed and ballast setting. For beginners we empty the tanks completely and run about the same speed - a nice solid beginner style wake that they can progress on.

          I have played around with the GS22. It is an awesome boat, and all-around one of our favorites. If you are looking for a great handling do-all family boat, this is the one to have. However, if you primarily want to surf, and don't care about skiing, the G is where it is at in my experience.

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          • charlesml3
            1,000 Post Club Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 2453

            • Lake Gaston, NC

            • 2022 G23

            #35
            Originally posted by blueroom View Post
            Not sure I agree with the "inherent problems" with the G series. Also disagree on the poor slow speed wakeboard comment, at least on the G23. What would you consider slow speed? We take the wake down to intermediate level with a 60/40 bias to the port side and run at 19 mph to work on new tricks, etc. A great experience at that speed and ballast setting. For beginners we empty the tanks completely and run about the same speed - a nice solid beginner style wake that they can progress on.

            I have played around with the GS22. It is an awesome boat, and all-around one of our favorites. If you are looking for a great handling do-all family boat, this is the one to have. However, if you primarily want to surf, and don't care about skiing, the G is where it is at in my experience.
            I honestly do not understand this debate at all. Nautique makes a LOT of different boats because there's no such thing as "does it all, and does it all great." That's impossible. The GS line is a family-oriented, crossover boat. It's meant to be able to do it all, but in order to accomplish that, there are compromises that must be made.

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            • blueroom
              Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
              • Mar 2017
              • 615

              • Northwest

              • G23

              #36
              ^^^ Exactly

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              • MJB
                • Jun 2006
                • 229

                • Jacksonville, Florida

                • 2014 G23 Coastal Previous Boat: 2011 Team 230

                #37
                Originally posted by Shockthis
                If you want a boat that surfs amazing a boat that handles well in the 24ft range why not go look at the supra SL
                Because a Supra is not a Nautique!


                Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique

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                • Shockthis
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 302

                  • Christina Lake BC

                  • 2021 centurion ri245

                  #38
                  Good job at noticing that, your right, it is even spelt different. I will enjoy my power tower and my 40k in my pocket while enjoying a wake as good as a G.

                  Jokes, I am sure I will be back in a nautique at some point if it is not up to snuff.
                  Last edited by Shockthis; 01-09-2018, 10:42 AM.

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                  • thejean
                    Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 364

                    • Calgary, AB


                    #39
                    FWIW, I’ve heard the GS24 doesn’t surf as well as it’s smaller brothers.

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                    • new210
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 26

                      • B.C. Canada

                      • 2015 G21

                      #40
                      G21-23 all day long! Re-sale is Best! Fit finish Best! Quality of electrical wiring inside and components are the best!Hull is rock solid and they are in keeping with modern design. Great choice, new control center is fantastic.
                      Good luck with whatever you choose


                      Sent from my iPhone using PLT Nautique

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                      • G_WaTT
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 104

                        • CA

                        • 2018 SAN G23

                        #41
                        Maybe get a G with the new thruster feature if maneuverability of the G is a concern. I haven't driven one with it, but the guy at my shop says it's amazing. Sorry if this has already been suggested.

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                        • Shockthis
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 302

                          • Christina Lake BC

                          • 2021 centurion ri245

                          #42
                          Seeing as it is on every other forum feel free to check out the wake 9 supra Sl review

                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtRFp4FunlU

                          i'll get my popcorn ready

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                          • Wayward
                            Senior Member of PLANETNAUTIQUE
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 424

                            • Northeast

                            • 2022 XStar

                            #43
                            ^ you should include the fact that wake 9 is only praising the boat they now own.

                            We we are happy that you are excited about your new purchase, but shamelessly plugging a completely biased review into a PN thread asking about G and GS series boats, is kinda pointless isn't it? If wake 9 was getting a row boat, he'd praise it as the best surf boat ever......

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                            • scottb7
                              1,000 Post Club Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2198

                              • Carson City, Nevada

                              • 2014 G21 (Current) 2008 SANTE 210

                              #44
                              Once row boats come with "integrated steering assist thrusters" I think I will switch to a row boat for wake boarding.

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                              • Shockthis
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 302

                                • Christina Lake BC

                                • 2021 centurion ri245

                                #45
                                I love ove how you get rotated on here for suggesting something, but then the g23 owners feel free to go onto the Malibu forms etc, and push there views on the G23. Noting wrong with people having options.

                                Originally posted by Wayward View Post
                                ^ you should include the fact that wake 9 is only praising the boat they now own.

                                We we are happy that you are excited about your new purchase, but shamelessly plugging a completely biased review into a PN thread asking about G and GS series boats, is kinda pointless isn't it? If wake 9 was getting a row boat, he'd praise it as the best surf boat ever......

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